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    If this comes to pass, then the Russians won. If this happens, then the USA is truly dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chu gar View Post
    If this comes to pass, then the Russians won. If this happens, then the USA is truly dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Fuego View Post
    Well ****. Eventually sex, smiling, eye contact, breathing air, taking a ****, watching porn, cliping your toe nails, brushing your teeth will all be either illegal or taxed to high ****.

    Gooooooooooood bless...Ameerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrica!
    And that's when I move to Germany.

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    I have a feeling that the same would apply in other states as well, if they were going by a strict reading of the law. At least by everything I have read it doesn't seem to be affecting the Portland Beer Festival. I'll be up there next weekend sampling all the brews they have to offer.
    Oregon Brewers Festival
    Wasn't thinking of anything specific
    Like in a dream, when someone wakes up and screams
    Nothing too very scientific
    Just thinking of a series of dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW8 View Post
    I have a feeling that the same would apply in other states as well, if they were going by a strict reading of the law. At least by everything I have read it doesn't seem to be affecting the Portland Beer Festival. I'll be up there next weekend sampling all the brews they have to offer.
    Oregon Brewers Festival
    this BS interpretation of the law wouldn't apply to breweries licensed by the OLCC so the beer fest will be fine.

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    I remember when I was in Oregon you had to buy the hard liquor from a state building like a post office instead of a liquor store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy2213 View Post
    this BS interpretation of the law wouldn't apply to breweries licensed by the OLCC so the beer fest will be fine.
    But this is exactly what's wrong with it, a brewery is OK as long as the OLCC says so. What this means is "Home-brewers and small scale breweries, F*** You"
    It's not quite at the same level, but it is very similar to a large group of restaurants helping pass a law against bake-off involving anything from a person's kitchen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble Savage View Post
    But this is exactly what's wrong with it, a brewery is OK as long as the OLCC says so. What this means is "Home-brewers and small scale breweries, F*** You"
    It's not quite at the same level, but it is very similar to a large group of restaurants helping pass a law against bake-off involving anything from a person's kitchen!
    While I'm critical of the law, when reading it, it is pretty clear. Here is a link to the Oregon Law, and by using the drop down menu, you can check other states. California law, for instance has a clause that allows beer to be taken off the premise (home) for entry into a judged contest.

    When laws for homebrewing were passed, I don't think most lawmakers envisioned how big it would become. Many homebrewers have grown their hobby into businesses. I know of at least 3 who started this way, within 5 miles of my house. Brewers that pay incredible licensing fees to sell product within the state, have a right to be concerned about homebrewers who may push the limits of the laws.

    As to your comments about bake-offs, if the profit potential was there , I'm sure businesses would lobby to regulate it. Garage/Yard Sales are regulated in many cities for that very reason, businesses pay license fees and want protection from unlicensed competition.
    Wasn't thinking of anything specific
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    I BELIEVE I'll have another beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble Savage View Post
    But this is exactly what's wrong with it, a brewery is OK as long as the OLCC says so. What this means is "Home-brewers and small scale breweries, F*** You"
    It's not quite at the same level, but it is very similar to a large group of restaurants helping pass a law against bake-off involving anything from a person's kitchen!
    I don't disagree with you. I was just commenting on the thought presented that the festival might not go on b/c of the idiotic law.

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