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    Quote Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie View Post
    I think that's what's gonna happen, but I think it's already been going on before this show. The beer selections at my local supermarkets are actually fairly impressive. Seeing Stone, Unibroue, and some others at a Ralph's/Vons/Gelsons? It's cool and depressing at the same time. But then again, your average frat boy or Bud Light drinker is still gonna go for the domestic mass produced stuff.
    Agreed all around on this. But I don't mind that craft brews are more accepted and mainstream these days. Hell, I want the breweries that I love to survive and thrive and the only way for that to happen is to have more people discover and start to drink their brews. I spread the word to everyone I know and I know I irritate a lot of people when I point out that the BA or Coors product they're drinking is pure crap. Tough. They need to grow some taste buds and stop settling for less. Support your local brewery!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy2213 View Post
    Agreed all around on this. But I don't mind that craft brews are more accepted and mainstream these days. Hell, I want the breweries that I love to survive and thrive and the only way for that to happen is to have more people discover and start to drink their brews. I spread the word to everyone I know and I know I irritate a lot of people when I point out that the BA or Coors product they're drinking is pure crap. Tough. They need to grow some taste buds and stop settling for less. Support your local brewery!!!!
    I agree. I'm a novice beer snob in that I'll throw a can of Miller Lite at my friend's face (not literally, lol) but I don't really buy in for all these HTF and overly expensive craft brews. I think there are a few things at play. There's always the worry that if a brewery gets too large and overextends that the product will suffer. There's the worry that massive amounts of newfound demand will drive up prices all across the board. And, lame as it may be, there's the worry that the novelty will wear off if it's just common. Kinda like finding a great band that hasn't made it yet. When they do you kinda lose a little of that perceived ownership whether you'll admit it or not. I still kinda struggle with one.

    Case in point: Ed Hardy beer. Coming to a douchefest bar near you:

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie
    There's always the worry that if a brewery gets too large and overextends that the product will suffer.
    Stone being the perfect example. They were exciting when I turned 21, but it wore off pretty quick. They just got way too big and focused on business/marketing first, and the beer itself second. They went overboard with the marketing and sales gimmicks, that they lost the passion and innovation in which they once had.

    Anymore, when I go to Stone, their elitism meter gets higher and higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azagthoth View Post
    Stone being the perfect example. They were exciting when I turned 21, but it wore off pretty quick. They just got way too big and focused on business/marketing first, and the beer itself second. They went overboard with the marketing and sales gimmicks, that they lost the passion and innovation in which they once had.

    Anymore, when I go to Stone, their elitism meter gets higher and higher.
    I personally think Stone is producing better beers than they ever have.

    As you saying their employees are getting elitist? did they hire No One or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obejuan View Post
    As you saying their employees are getting elitist? did they hire No One or something?
    i am responsible for New Hire Training at Stone, or not. You decide.
    Last edited by No One; November 22nd, 2010 at 02:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obejuan View Post
    I personally think Stone is producing better beers than they ever have.

    As you saying their employees are getting elitist? did they hire No One or something?
    I can't say I've been impressed with any of the verticals since 2006 (2010 wasn't bad, but 07-09 have been horrible). Most of the collaborations were average, except the one with Nogne 0 & Jolly Pumpkin. The 14th Anniversary was horrible, 13th was decent, 12 was very nice, 11 not so much, and 10th Anniversary was the last Stone beer that really blew me away.

    Seems like they got on the Belgian IPA trend for a while, and I couldn't really get into those. The Stone IRS and Old Guardian are consistent, but other than those I don't have much interest in them. Maybe one of these days they'll come out with something awesome that'll blow me away again like when I had the 10th.

    And yes, I have had several experiences where the employees had elitist mentalities. They need somebody like Mitch to step in and show em how customer service is done.

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    THe Stone Old Guardian was crap this year. Mostly, I love Stone though.
    I AM THE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!

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    I loved the 08-08-08 and I also like quite a few of the collaborations. but I also like Beligians more than you too

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie View Post
    Kinda like finding a great band that hasn't made it yet. When they do you kinda lose a little of that perceived ownership whether you'll admit it or not. I still kinda struggle with one.
    And I was going to use the band analogy too! There is a large grain of truth to what you say. Some will succumb to trying to get too big/too fast and "dumb" down their beers. Dogfish Head is a candidate given the, what, 35(!) beers they make!!!! To me, that's a bit of gilding the lily. Even Sierra Nevada has me concerned with the glut of "seasonals" that they are now doing. I was fine when it was simply Pale, Porter, Celebration and BigFoot. Now they're almost overdoing things - albeit continuing to produce world class beers (excepting the Kellerweise - to me, THAT is the exact sort of beer aimed at Joe Six Pack).

    Maybe that's the way to survive in the craft beer segment of the market. I wouldn't have a clue. But yea, I'm with you on the whole "I discovered this little gem of a brew" vibe. I feel SPECIAL when I introduce a beer I've discovered that not a lot have heard of, much less had. Once EVERYONE is drinking it, the luster does fade a bit.

    BTW, took a quick run to BevMo in SLO and had a few minutes to browse the racks. They have a TON of the Sierra Nevada XXX series of beers, about 100 magnums of Anchor Merry Christmas ale, and a small handful of other holiday brews. Nothing out of the ordinary so a bit disappointing. However I did pick up a bottle of each of the following: Sierra Nevada Estate, Deschutes Mirror Mirror 2009 Reserve, Deschutes Jubel 2010, and Dogfish Head Pangaea. I've got the SN in the fridge chilling for game watching tonight. I'll be rocking the red flannel, knocking back damn fine brew, and cheering the Kings on to an overwhelming victory in a couple of hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchrock View Post
    THe Stone Old Guardian was crap this year. Mostly, I love Stone though.
    Damn, really? I never had one.

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