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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah
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    I don't know about the Crawford move, but I will tell you this I will take Dean Lombardi and Marc Crawford over Tim Leiweke, Dave Taylor, and Andy Murray any day of the week and I'm sure any hockey insider will agree.
    I'm still skeptical whether Leiweke is really out of the picture .... hockey-decisions-wise.

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    All I care about is #6

    goaltending please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beingbobbyorr
    I'm still skeptical whether Leiweke is really out of the picture .... hockey-decisions-wise.
    So am I. I am not convinced he can control himself enough to not meddle.

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    Great post, karma for you dizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt
    GoldJet, do you really believe the Kings weren't serious about winning? Or that players didn't think they were? I don't see how anyone could think they weren't serious...they just got snakebit year after year by injuries.
    No I don't believe the Kings have not been serious about winning in the past.

    But maybe some free agents would look at the Kings and see a team that has missed the playoffs for 3 years in a row and maybe would question whether they were committed to winning. I think with the hiring of Lombardi and Crawford, I don't think free agents will look at it that way.

    It is kind of a bad example because a huge reason Scott Niedermayer came to Anaheim was to play with Rob, but I remember when he signed he made a comment about the Ducks hiring Brian Burke and how he as shown he can build a successful team. I think free agents will look at the Kings and feel like it an organizaion headed in the right direction with these hires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Daneshgar
    All I care about is #6

    goaltending please!
    Seeing Gerber/Ward, Miller, Roloson and Bryzgalov lead their teams into the Conference Finals...do you really think Garon can't do it too?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldJet
    No I don't believe the Kings have not been serious about winning in the past.

    But maybe some free agents would look at the Kings and see a team that has missed the playoffs for 3 years in a row and maybe would question whether they were committed to winning. I think with the hiring of Lombardi and Crawford, I don't think free agents will look at it that way.

    It is kind of a bad example because a huge reason Scott Niedermayer came to Anaheim was to play with Rob, but I remember when he signed he made a comment about the Ducks hiring Brian Burke and how he as shown he can build a successful team. I think free agents will look at the Kings and feel like it an organizaion headed in the right direction with these hires.
    I suppose, but I'd be surprised if the players and their agents are that simplistic. I think they probably all have really good ideas of who "wants to win" and who doesn't. And I would imagine that they would see the same things we have...that the Kings tried like hell and got snakebitten with injuries. I mean, they got Palffy...added Deadmarsh and then Allison to try to win. It didn't work, but they tried like hell. Conroy and Demitra sure had some good things to say when they signed...really similar to what Niedermayer said when he signed with the Ducks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beingbobbyorr
    I'm still skeptical whether Leiweke is really out of the picture .... hockey-decisions-wise.
    Well, if he is, he'd better tread carefully. You only get to make scapegoats out of the GM and coach so often before the finger gets pointed at you. I'm more curious as to how much input Crawford has on personnel decisions. I'm thinking that Deano makes the calls for the most part, since it's his second stint as a GM and the critical first year. Not a time to go deferring decisions or sharing power when you're trying to realize a vision.

    As for bringing in some gritty vets like Nolan, etc. I have no problems as long as they are (1) on short, cheap contracts (2) don't block the progress of younger players and (3) aren't too slow for today's game. I don't remember Nolan being particularly fast, and I do remember him being particularly injured. Valeri Bure, part 2?

    And, to echo other posters, I love that we now have some frickin' credibility. This HAS to help when Deano goes fishing in free agency. And maybe with a high-profile coach we'll even see some media coverage! Oh shoot, I got carried away, didn't I?

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    I'll take Crawford's dump and chase hockey as long as Dean gets fast players who can actually get the puck... NOT Owen Nolan/Trevor Linden.

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    Assumign Crawford is our man, I'll withhold judgment on him for now. There's definately some positives with him, but also some negatives. I want to see what moves he and Lombardi make.

    But I do agree, considering the options for coaches out there, he is probably among the top 3 candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt
    Seeing Gerber/Ward, Miller, Roloson and Bryzgalov lead their teams into the Conference Finals...do you really think Garon can't do it too?
    The concern I have about Garon is that he seems to be lacking in stamina (either mental or physical) and that is something that can be worked around in the regular season but not the playoffs.

    I just don't understand what happens to goalies. They'll be great for a year or two and then stink it up. Almost all of the big-money goalies in the past few years have turned into busts (Giguere, Nabokov, Khabibulin, Theodore etc.) while the obscure guys can become superstars overnight. Brodeur is about the only guy playing who has been consistently outstanding.

    I don't understand it, but it would make me very hesitant to blow a big chunk of payroll on a "big name" goalie.

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