September 19th, 2008, 05:39 PM #21
Hold out for a better contract next year when the Kings have a chance to win! He needs his rest!
September 19th, 2008, 06:12 PM #22
so now dl should man up?
Originally Posted by Carla Muller
September 19th, 2008, 06:25 PM #23
At this point, both look bad to me. I hold O'Sullivan more accountable because I really believe he has more to lose. A guy with one whopping year in the league whose game didn't take off until he was with Brown and Kopitar should really pick his battles and $$ demands more wisely.
Originally Posted by D0wntime
Johnson has more leverage than O'Sullivan b/c the organization is so thin on D who are NHL ready. The organization's depth at forward is deeper so O'Sullivan is playing a more dangerous game of chicken IMO. DL doesn't need to man up, he has reserves. What does Sully have as he sits in any other place than Los Angeles?
September 19th, 2008, 06:28 PM #24
I'm ready for Hockey....with or without him!
September 19th, 2008, 06:30 PM #25
September 19th, 2008, 06:55 PM #26
I have to agree with Carla on this one.
An agent is just an employee of the player. The agent needs to tailor his efforts to what is in the players best interests. The agent must present what options are available to the player, the player must then decide what is acceptable to him. If Sully has delegated this decision to his agent, then he is a fool. IMO Sully has to take charge of his career and not rely upon someone else to make his decisions for him. The player needs to man-up and take control of his own destiny. The Player IS the boss, not the Agent.
IF Sully has the tattoo on his butt and wants to be a core pl;ayer, Fine! If not, that is fine too. I am sure one of our other hungry young prospects wiould give excess body parts to take his spot.
I am tired of waiting for him to decide. The train is leaving the station, IF he wants to be a part of the team, he needs to get on the train and ride! If not, he needs to catch the next fast freight out of town!
September 19th, 2008, 07:20 PM #27
I don't use as many words to go into detail, as many do. My feelings are still the same. Either Sully wants to be part of the Kings future or he doesn't. It's up to him and not some greedy agent. If Sully makes no attempt to meet with Dl and work out a deal, the Kings will just move on without him and at this point, I think we're all sick of hearing this thing drag on so long. Soooo, take a hike Sully.
September 19th, 2008, 07:31 PM #28
I'm with Carla on this one too. This is where Sully, by his actions, will prove how much he really, REALLY wants to be part of this team. And if this drags on for more than a couple of more days, he won't be getting much sympathy from the fans. With the economy in bad shape, high gas prices, Wall St., etc., it's hard to feel sympathy for someone arguing over millions of dollars. When he does finally return, will he be greeted by BOOS at TSC? How will this delay go over with his teammates? I don't see much good coming of this if this drags on much longer.
September 19th, 2008, 09:08 PM #29
With all due respect, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the development of players once they are in the system. The Kings lost valuable assets in the acquisition of PO'S, you certainly don't expect them to be held hostage after they spent, time money and resources to develop PO'S, do you?
Originally Posted by Dominic Lavoie
On a completely different note, Carla, I agree with you completely. In fact let me throw this out:
Sometimes an intermediary is helpful in these cases, someone who might listen and talk to both sides about the true feelings of the two opposing "factions".
You know, like Kopi and Brownie, have a little chat with Sully, then maybe they go back and talk to Dean, what could it hurt?
September 19th, 2008, 09:42 PM #30
With all due respect you have a fundamental misunderstanding of assets. POS and his contract have nothing to do with who he was traded for. We are talking about a negotiation. DL has staffed it out and so has POS. This is entirely fine to do, and not a sign of either lacking "manhood".
Originally Posted by vindogla
One side wants long term for small money and one side wants long term for big money, or failing that less money for short term. DL says POS hasn't proven himself yet, but wants to lock him up long term? You only do that when you are confident the player will improve. POS, not being an idiot, realizes this and wants to be paid if he is going to sign long term.
Both sides need to just agree to a short term deal, and O'Sullivan can earn the $4 milion with his play. DL thinks he can roll the kid and get a 70-80 pt producer for $2.5 million for five years. Its just not realistic to push the issue this far. Get him signed and stop putting all the onus on O'Sullivan. It takes two to tango.