January 9th, 2008, 10:56 AM #11
I think as fans and season seat holders, we have been to lenient with the organization. Quite frankly, I expect more for my entertainment dollar. I have been a season seat holder for only three years but have forked out over $12,000 on season seats, not to mention the overpriced food and beverage. Having two young kids, I can only imagine what that $12,000 would do for their future education. If you go to a movie and it's bad, you don't have to see it again. Same with a concert or other forms of entertainment. Season seat holders are screwed because you're locked in. I can'teven give my seats away.
In the past, when our team lost, we went down fighting. We don't even do that anymore. Someone needs to answer up. Heads should roll. We are rebuilding but are getting worse????? WTF
January 9th, 2008, 10:58 AM #12
I just don't understand why you keep coming back. Give up your seats and find another form of entertainment. The Ducks are just down the road if all you need is a winner.
Originally Posted by tougie2
January 9th, 2008, 11:19 AM #13
I'm a little annoyed that we're (me included) looking to the "number of hits" for an indication of any kind of victory out there.
Originally Posted by nosoupforyou
Can't we just score more goals sometimes?
January 9th, 2008, 01:04 PM #14
You're wrong. They have heart. It's the make-up of the team. There are some players that don't even belong in the NHL playing right now. We have a back up goalie playing #1, and sometimes a AHL back-up caliber goalie playing #1 (Aubin). Blake is a leader 1 out of every 5 nights, and all of our talent is under the age of 25. Somethings going to give. But to say they have no heart is like saying they would all play for a losing team forever. Because if you had no heart, losing would be fine with you no matter what team your with. I know your angry, but use logic. Kopitar, Brown, Johnson, Cammalleri, O'Sullivan, Frolov, Visnovsky etc. have talent. Everyone else is a filler player. That's too many filler players. I like LaBarbera, he is a good goalie, he is no Roy, and he gets no help. But he has heart, as does everyone on this team. Think about it.
Originally Posted by CarlaMuller
Last edited by Tre West; January 9th, 2008 at 01:08 PM.
January 9th, 2008, 02:31 PM #15
January 9th, 2008, 02:56 PM #16
Why are you explaining their heart (or lack of it, whichever your argument happens to be)? Why isn't the team explaining their heart, definition of heart or lack thereof. I spend multiple hours reading articles, examining statistics as well. What does that make me? A fan who doesn't spend hours writing some fake letter from the players to get a 'dialogue' going on a fan message board. There is already dialogue going here, it may not be intelligent or coherent most days, but there is a dialogue.
Originally Posted by CarlaMuller
ETA: And yes, I understand you spend hours, probably more than others, studying the team. Thats all fine and dandy, but unless you have some insiders view to whats being said, not being said, being done or not being done, you're just like the rest of us - except you have a blog.
When they allow you into the locker room for pre-game, between periods, post-game, practices etc, you can say whatever you want, but until that happens, you're like the rest of us. Sitting here speculating. Gathering whatever shread of info we can from how they're playing (or not playing) to come up with whats wrong with this team.
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January 9th, 2008, 03:04 PM #17
And we really need Tickles back. At least she was funny.
January 9th, 2008, 03:13 PM #18
I will leave that question to the players as to why they are or are not explaining the results of their play this year and how their hearts are involved. As a blogger, I try to understand the reasons behind the scoreboard once all the dust settles. Heart is one of many factors which could account for this year's Kings. It is for that reason I include it as a factor in what I write.
Originally Posted by johnmac44
January 9th, 2008, 03:21 PM #19
My 2-cents on heart
I think some people are confusing talent with heart. Is this a very talented team? Of course. We got enough good young guys to make this team a real competitor. But what they lack is the drive and desire... the heart. And whether you blame Crawford, Blakey, or someone else in a leadership position, this team, as a whole, lacks a spark.
For those of us who have faith in this team, I see it as the only explanation.
As naive as it may sound to someone on the outside, I still do have faith in this team. I think that they have enough talent to turn the season around, not necessarily to make the playoffs, but show that they're worth a darn in this game. And if I have enough faith in their physical ability to win, the only way I see them losing is a lack of mental ability... it's just logic.
I don't see these guys as idiots, but they make stupid plays, then they seem to tumble from their. They don't seem to have tough skin, they don't seem to be able to move on. They don't seem to have the heart.
To put it bluntly, this game, and any sport really, requires just 2 things: Skill, and Heart. I know they have the former, leaving only the latter to explain this season.
And even I'm not so naive as to think it'll get better by just waiting to rebuild. Their heart isn't in it. Until that changes, their chances of winning will remain the same.
January 9th, 2008, 03:33 PM #20
Originally Posted by FishMonger
What they lack is consistency - not heart. And consistency comes from setting your lines (after seeing who works well together) and letting them figure each other out. They way Crawford changes lines is causing them confusion - imagine trying to remember who you're on the ice with at any given moment. Hockey is an fast, instantaneous game. You don't huddle, set and try to execute a play, you need to think on your feet and be ready to act fast. Playing with linemates on a constant basis is the only way to accomplish this. They'll learn to read each other.
Flame away - my insight comes from people who played professional hockey - I don't read stats and analyze. I watch and listen to people who actually play the game. At this point in the season, lines should be pretty constant. If it's not working on any particular night, then shift them around, but not on a daily basis.