January 9th, 2008, 10:29 PM #51
Communication is the biggest thing they lack right now. Notice how there are no tape to tape passes? A player doesn't know where his linemates are half the time? And for a while, they suffered from multiple Too Many Men penalties. Communication is key.
So agree with you again, no argument, except line changes are a coaching issue , and the communication has to be developed by players, example of coaches fault, last night the 4th goal the preds scored, after a power play , in fact Crawford called that change, and put the kings out of position, not that the game wasnt already lost, but that dont help
Modry is a waste, you dont bring back an old trade, there was a reason we got rid of him, if you read my orgianl post I have the same complaints of Modry as u do, he's flat footed penalty prone, and doesnt take the body at all.
Well thats that, ok im done, l8ter yall
January 9th, 2008, 10:33 PM #52
Yes, the coach calls the change, BUT, the players have to execute it. And that nice job of clearing the puck by Aubin - brilliant move. Way to play your position. I believe that was the 4th goal, was it not? the line change and Aubin's mistake ate them alive.
Originally Posted by Avatar323
At that point, I was hoping they could pull out at least 3 goals so Aubin would take the loss. No such luck.
January 9th, 2008, 11:22 PM #53
I was so trying to forget that
Yes, the coach calls the change, BUT, the players have to execute it. And that nice job of clearing the puck by Aubin - brilliant move
I had forgotten about that bullheaded clearing attempt by Aubin, during that bad line change, and I can agree at least a couple of the players could have done a better job recognizing it was a bad change, all im sayin is that was a stupid time to call a change, with respect to your point, and point taken.
Also Blake , that s a touchy subject to me, I agree if he doesnt want to be there he shouldnt, but he is taking a lot of responsbility for the losses as of late, Crawford sure hasnt. In fact all he does is insult La Barbara, for just about ever goal, didnt Crawford bring Cloutier to the kings, or at least have a hand in that if I am not mistaken ? But back to blake the guy is playing lot harder, and anyone at his age to come back with hip surgery, shows alot of initiative , and he does want to be in LA he has stated it over and over, the comment he made is " IF they approach me for a trade, I wont fight it ill go, I dont want to be where I am not wanted" not exact words but close, it was posted on NHL.com if you want the exact phrasing he used. I think he's playin harder each game, so lets give Blake a break, after all he is having a hand in the development of J Johnson, I play league hockey myself and I play D whihc is one of the tougher pos. on the ice, I know i'd love to learn a few tricks of the trade from blake, he's only played what 1100 + games ??
January 9th, 2008, 11:45 PM #54
My personal opinion on the Crawford/JLB thing. Crawford took a lot of heat (as well he should) for the Cloutier thing last season. I'm sure it smarts to have JLB back here and I bet there is a lot of pressure on him not only as a goaltender, but as Cloutiers 'replacement'. I would love to have inside knowledge of their coach/player relationship.
Originally Posted by Avatar323
Blake, well, he's just not the old Blake. He's getting older and not going to put up the numbers he used too. I give the guy credit for taking credit for the losses. Unfortunately, he's not the only player on the ice. And no, not every play is going to come off perfectly, but everyone on the team is to blame for the losses.
January 10th, 2008, 12:12 AM #55
January 10th, 2008, 12:23 AM #56
January 10th, 2008, 03:46 AM #57
Now I know I'm late but I'm gonna give my 2 cents of the heart/no heart regardless
As a coach, and I mean ages 12-22 (Middle School through College) I get to see athletes compete everyday. There are athletes whom can have the appearance of lack of heart, when it is just mistakes. But then you get the athletes I LOVE to coach. Those that heart carries them, and that's what we want/look for. That person does things like:
-When they make a mistake you seem them get upset so that they want that next play to redeem themselves.
And I always tell my players, we make mistakes, that's fine, but redeem yourself, you make one, get that point back
-When you're on the rink/court/field hustle... especially hockey where you're playing short shifts with longer breaks. You condition for that reason. (you hear it at young ages all the time... your feet should never stop moving). Don't ever stop moving give 110% for your 30 seconds to a minute, then rest
-If you start losing to a point where you can't win, make the other team regret beating you... get physical show them if they want to come to your home and take your win then there is a price to a pay. (this one I don't always agree with, but I an understand it)
So if you can say that they a) get upset and redeem themselves after a mistake, b) never stop moving their feet, and c) make the other team pay/regret coming and stealing their win then I say it's safe to say they have Heart. If you feel the 3 things are missing you have an arguement against Heart.
January 10th, 2008, 09:01 AM #58
And if I recall correctly, there WAS a Kings defenseman there to take the puck, JS just decided he was in a better position to flip the puck out of the zone.
Originally Posted by johnmac44
January 10th, 2008, 09:15 AM #59
The puck was cleared past the 2 d-men who were at center ice. JSA made the mistake of trying to get fancy - and he got caught. Kipper got caught behind the net the other night too. Out of position.
Originally Posted by nosoupforyou
January 10th, 2008, 11:33 AM #60
Wondering if we can agree on something...
Does anyone disagree that this team, as a whole, has enough talent/individual skill to do well? Just thought I'd go Sherlock Holmes stlye, eliminating what it's not.
Of course, we will never all agree on anything, just looking for a general consensus... and something to do while pretending to work.