October 1st, 2008, 01:14 PM #11
I think to a certain extent you are indeed correct. My speculation is that he does probably regret not signing that qualifying offer. O'Sullivan gave away more control then he may have thought by not signing the QO.
Originally Posted by PRMan!!
October 1st, 2008, 01:17 PM #12
There IS some truth to this. The bigger picture is what if DL wins the battle with O'Sullivan and loses the war when he cannot get Kopitar and/or Johnson to sign either. Where will public opinion be then? I really think that is the scarier picture than #12's holding out.
Originally Posted by Vicarious
October 1st, 2008, 01:19 PM #13
WOWOW Great job !!!!! Nice reading for my luch break>>>>>Yes, it's a risk, but his agent isn't doing him any favors by him being out of camp at this early stage in his career. I think he is too young to be expecting a bigger check he had 1 good year with the team that really doesent prove much.....hope he signs and gets to work, his not making any money by being a FAN
October 1st, 2008, 01:24 PM #14
What about the possibility of 3. How Dean handles this contract effects his ability to re-sign Johnson and Kopitar. There IS also a big assumption that the offer from DL is fair and appropriate. That may not be the case.
Originally Posted by santiclaws
DL had challenges getting some players re-signed in San Jose. There is evidence of that here. At some point, this may be about more than the budget he gets from the owners if he has problems re-signing players in 2 organizations. Drafting and developing is one skill; the ability to keep those players in the organization is another. Only time will tell if DL has serious issues of being able to do the latter.
October 1st, 2008, 01:24 PM #15
Now you're getting it. There's a bad message being sent here.
Originally Posted by Carla Muller
I would venture a guess that after the Lubo trade, Brown and Frolov maybe thinking their deals aren't so binding either. They signed long term to stay in LA, where's the guarantee of that happening?
October 1st, 2008, 01:27 PM #16
October 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM #17
Thank you. This post articulates the greatest area of concern for all Kings fans. Will the organization be able to maintain the core it is so carefully building? Concessions and sacrifices must be made in both directions by both management and the players. If O'Sullivan is truly part of that core, then Dustin Brown's feelings cannot be considered serious part of accomplishing the real long-term goal. He will get his just reward when his time comes around again.
Originally Posted by Carla Muller
October 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM #18
It was this point that hit me most after spending time with #12's billet family. Kopitar and Johnson regularly communicate with O'Sullivan. This is a heck of a message to send them by DL and Solomon. This is NO longer just about the alleged greed of one guy. There are bigger repercussions at issue that spook me more than whether Sully signs.
Originally Posted by fansince67
This reminds me of when Messier guaranteed a win in the 1994 series with the Devils in game 6. He said after the fact that when he made the statement, he did it to motivate his teammates. He never took into account how it would fire up the Devils.
DL may or may not be right on what he is doing with O'Sullivan. He seems to be missing the point that now that he has repeatedly and publicly named the team's core and builders, that these same players will then reasonably want to be paid and treated the way players who have that organizational standing possess. And if DL doesn't back it up so that his actions match his words, what will be the effect of that?
October 1st, 2008, 01:40 PM #19
I have never read or heard that Brown's contract has somehow become the equivalent of a cap to any player with similar stats or upside. And yes, DL's ability to keep this core he built concerns me now that I got an appreciation for O'Sullivan's side of things. *sigh*
Originally Posted by VCRW
October 1st, 2008, 01:42 PM #20
This situation has the markings of a powder keg written all over it. This could very easily develop in to a worse situation than the Camalleri thing ever was.
I still maintain that this situation needs to be fixed now rather than later. Every day he remains unsigned and not with the team means that this season is hurt by his absence. And more importantly; the future of the Kings other core players is jeopardized. What will happen; will happen. Nothing I or anyone else here do will change that fact. It is a shame that this is left in the hands of those who will profit no matter which way this turns out.