Hi Carla,
Your client here. Yes, I'd have to guess that my reply could be viewed as inevitable as your posting about our conversation in the first place. You got a lot right in your recollection but I thought I'd take a moment to clarify some of the points. In all fairness, you weren't exactly taking notes during the conversation!
Not exactly. My ears perked up when I heard you talking to one of my colleagues about "quackers". Now given the fact the Olympics were on the various TV's perched about the restaurant, I thought to myself what a quacker could have to do with the Oympics. Then I heard "Kings" and I figured it out. From there, I don't recall if you mentioned your blog or if you were outted by someone else. Either way, I think you are doing a pretty cool thing.
Which I then followed immediately with "other than in my ice hockey locker room" which is decidedly pro-Kings. I live and work in Anaheim, forgive me if I don't bump into Kings fans very often. I'm more likely to run into Penguins and Red Wings fans than those of any other team.
Less than impressive? Clearly struck a nerve, eh? Then again, I was less impressed with the term "quackers".
No, I only keyed in on two things here, we have actually won a Stanley Cup and will always be the first California team to win, no matter what the Kings might do in the future. That can never be taken away from us. I can give a hoot that we now sell out all of our games and whether we always beat the Kings. Ducks/Kings games are usually tremendous matchups and can be painful to watch in person if you are on the losing end. I've been to too many of those to say we always win. Then again, it was fun last season to attend a couple Ducks/Kings games at Staples Center and hearing all of the "Ducks (inhale)" chants and ridiculous first-grader-like rearranging of our star player's names as we were winning the games. I'll take that any day when we're the team who is inscribed on the most sacred trophy in all of sports. And blah, blah, blah? I don't remember saying that but I'll give that one to you.
Regardless of whether this proves to be a one-time victory, I'll take it. I feel better having been there than still dreaming that someday it MIGHT happen for my team. It has happened and the feeling was tremendous. And although you might be right about Burke, I'm the last person who will lose a wink of sleep over it. What will be will be.
And my response was: OK, if that makes you feel better.
True, expectations do change. It's refreshing to expect to win, not just hope to win and squeek into the playoffs like it was back in the 90's. We had a Cup finals game 7 heartbreak of our own in 2003 but I'll take our play over the last three years any day of the week.
Criticize Burke all you want, win for today, whatever, but he has in fact WON. And while some may question the Bertuzzi and Schneider signings, they were done because he was hedging as he tried to take the high road in allowing Selanne and Niedermayer the luxary of contemplating their futures well into the regular season. Everyone knows how that turned out and hopefully the NHL will come up with some sort of rule to prevent such a thing from happening again in the future. Bottom line, we haven't made stupid trade deadline deals by trading active NHL'ers or assets from our farm system. With or without Burke, I'm less worried about the future of the Ducks than I'd be if I were a fan of what someone calls the only Southern California hockey team that matters.
And no one can take from me the tremendous achievements of the Ducks during their rather short existence, especially The Stanley Cup.
Fans have every right to be passionate about their teams. I respect the passion exhibited by you and the other Kings fans on this site (even though I was called a d-bag by one). I won't go so far as to say I'm a fan of both teams, I got over that long ago. But when the Kings are not playing the Ducks, I have no problem rooting for them. Why? Because nothing would make this rivalry better than to meet in the playoffs. Name the round, it doesn't matter, everything will be on the line. Then the real war of the words can begin!
Last edited by DucksFirst; August 19th, 2008 at 05:16 AM.
DucksFirst for Kings Blogger!!!
after DucksFirst's response it has become apparent that our resident blogger has a penchant for sensationalism, victimization and hyperbole.
Thanks on the latter. It is pretty cool that you came here to chat.
The Ducks and Ducks' fans absolutely will always have both score board and the first score board on the Kings.
I hope some day that Kings' fans get that feeling that yourself, the Ducks and their fans enjoyed. I still remember getting emotional when the Ducks won. There are no words that truly convey what it is like to either personally achieve your dreams or by extension watching others or a rival team or their fans experience when their dreams come true. As the Visa commercials would say, it is priceless.
If I were a Ducks' fan, I would too. The Kings record over the same period is definitely a low light. I do get that. What brings me hope is the fact that it appears the Kings are finally getting it right. If the organization stays the course, then anything is possible...
No doubt the Kings and Ducks' real hard core rivalry won't take place until or unless they meet in the play-offs. Thanks for coming over here. It was such a real treat to find other hockey fans like yourself.![]()
I only knew one person who is a kings and ducks fan and now I met Nemmy700 how is this possible is beyond me, I guess there is nothing wrong with that, but when these two teams do make the playoffs in the same year and face each other who will you root for Nemmy700???
I guess my question is:
Carla, will DucksFirst still be your client?
You were talking about quackers...something I'm perfectly ok with, they annoy me to. However, you made it seem as if you were persecuted for being a King fan by an evil Duck fan. When taking DucksFirst's account of the story it is not how it happened. This would be an example of victimization.
Carla : I received was thoroughly unexpected. It went something like, ‘I have never met a Kings’ fan’ (like … wow… there is one… who’d a thunk it….egad!)
DucksFirst : Not exactly. My ears perked up when I heard you talking to one of my colleagues about "quackers".
When you take your prospective client (assuming he is still prospective client) out of context like that to emphasize your earlier example of victimization it is an example of sensationalism.Carla : ‘I have never met a Kings’ fan’ (like … wow… there is one… who’d a thunk it….egad!) What followed after that was less than impressive and long stored smack my client was itching to get out.
DucksFirst : Which I then followed immediately with "other than in my ice hockey locker room" which is decidedly pro-Kings.
Look, I'm all for making fun of Duck fans but this we should be proud because things might start going our way in the not too distant future is comedic hyperbole at it's best. Can't we just put comments like some of the ones espoused in your blog to rest until the Kings actually get something done? It sucks to have to hold back sometimes but arguing that the Kings are doing anything better than Anaheim, or anyone else for that matter (considering our last place finish and actual regression in year two of Lombardi's plan and possile further regression in year three) is lunacy.
Last edited by BrownieGirl23; August 19th, 2008 at 12:39 PM.