August 4th, 2012, 08:11 PM #71
'Cause he ain't Black! :P
So, JD, how much you like Hitch? I know you've seen his films, but I don't know just how much you like them. Yeah, nerd for wanting to talk about films on Saturday, but you know me.
August 4th, 2012, 08:14 PM #72
Not a huge fan. Not NOT a fan, just not sure that I GET how wonderful he was. Not trying to dismiss his work...it just may not be my style. Also, I naturally tend to be averse to stuff that is foisted on me as classic before I even see it. Once again, not speaking ill...just may not appreciate it like others.
August 4th, 2012, 09:03 PM #73
We're very different people, JD, haha!
My favorite director of all time is Hitch and second Kubrick and Cronenberg is my favorite living director. 2 out of 3 Jewish ain't bad, haha, thanks Meatloaf, those these two Jews were atheists.
Hitch apparently was Catholic though, which I think is always weird for Englishmen, but part of the Irish migration to said country.
But anyways, I did Hitch so much that I have had dreams with him, and one such dream, I asked him what his favorite Kubrick film, and guess what he said? I'll wait.
The Shining. It was just a dream, but I think that's what he would said. I don't see him appreciating Kubrick's controversy or abstractness, but he might just like the suspense in The Shining.
Dunno, love talking about Hitch. :D
August 4th, 2012, 09:32 PM #74
see, I think artistically(???) I find Kubrick more in line with my sensibilities. Maybe it's the era or the subject matter he chose. Hitch is too '50's for me. It's not that I don't appreciate his work, it's just that it doesn't speak to me like it should. See, I will tell you a little something Orph...as much as I love MOVIES I am not a cinephile. I don't pretend to know the art or study the masters like some of the more qualified like yourself. I JUST LIKE MOVIES. I know my tastes are unrefined and some must see me as gaijin. I accept that and embrace it. I am Joe Popcorn. Lowbrow to hibrow, if it's good I can dig it.
Originally Posted by orpheus
August 4th, 2012, 09:56 PM #75
I don't think I am going to call anyone here gaijin, haha, because I am not Japanese, but I get what you're saying.
You have a more blue collar working class towards life, haha, and spoiled college kids like myself want to over-analyze everything including films. But still different people, ultimately, like different things. My dad, for example, is really working class (Ha! He listen to Deep Purple and Rod Stewart), but he likes Hitch, maybe a baby boomer generational thing, but aside from some Kubrick films, like two, the Shining and Full Metal Jacket, he doesn't care for Kubrick. He thinks he was just vulgar or boring.
But he does likes movies. Watched the Straw Dogs remake and actually liked it. Watched the Watchmen film and liked it (he's never read the comic). And sometimes, my being the pseudo intellectual, can't help and tell him watch something much more arty, haha.
It all comes to what I learned from studying literature, people can learn all these theories about it and fancy words, but if you like something and are able to say why that's all that matters. It's all relative so I don't know it it's as simple and high/low brow.
My dad was a teen/early 20's guy in the '70's and watch all that black/exploitation stuff and like's Tarantino a whole lot more than me, but Tarantino has won awards and made that stuff acceptable in some eyes it's no longer low brow.
It's all about taste really though, if you get what I am trying to say.
August 4th, 2012, 10:11 PM #76
I do. And that's the way I try to look at it too. It's the 'I don't know art, but I knows what I likes...' argument. I am glad you get what I am saying.
August 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM #77
I never get over my amazement of how Hitchcock was able to make not just an interesting movie, but a classic, that takes place in one room for two hours (Rear Window).
August 4th, 2012, 11:15 PM #78
Yeah, his films made a lot of money, they were mainstream, but you watch them over and over again, and just realize how creative and deep they are.
Have you watch Rope, NastiMarvasti?
All the psychosexual stuff, and the two protagonists were Gay, and Hitch got a Major Studio to fund it because on the surface it was just a crime story. :P
August 5th, 2012, 12:44 AM #79
i love Rope, in fact gonna throw it on right now, thanks!
Originally Posted by orpheus
August 5th, 2012, 01:00 AM #80
As long as you don't invite me to a dinner party where you're trying to sell me books tied up. :O
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