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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    Name of kid shot by Todd: Drew Sharp

    Houston DEA agent Hank spoke with: Doughty

    Is there a Kings fan among the Breaking Bad writers?
    Wouldn't surprise me. Caught an old Law and Order re-run over the weekend with characters named McSorely, Probert, Chelios and Twist.

    Gotta name characters something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    It seemed like the opposite to me. Punctuated by the fact that he had tears rolling down his cheek as he said it.
    i can see it that way also. i was still thinking about the knife fight. haha. but walt's relationship with his family is totally multi-dimensional. he started all this for them. he wanted to leave the money to them. i can totally see that phone call as his claiming responsibility for everything and absolving skyler of any wrongdoing. but i'm sure there was a lot of anger towards her for revealing the truth to walt jr.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Blando View Post
    Although I did wonder why he didn't also mention killing Mike to Jesse when he was telling him about watching Jane die.
    i think it's because he knew the part about jane dying was the revelation that would hurt him the most. jesse already sort of suspected walt killed mike and jesse was never in love with mike. he had no idea that walt was there or that he could have saved her. discovering this news was on a level worse than finding out that walt poisoned brock to manipulate him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Blando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    that's an interesting angle that i didn't see last night. i think it's somewhere between this and walt being heisenberg. he was straight up pissed and looked like he could kill skyler during that knife fight. i was on the edge of my couch during that. then when he hatefully called her a bitch he really sounded like he meaned it. the feelings he displayed when holly kept saying "mama" in the bathroom was walt though.




    look at the reflection on the left. bullet in walt's head. possible foreshadowing or just a mindtrick by the cinematographers, you decide!
    I read that scene as though Walt was cutting ties, realizing just how far things had gone, allowing his family to carry on without him and doing his best to reduce any role Skylar may have had to anyone who was listening. His tone was very menacing, but that was the saddest moment in the series for me. Leaving Holly with the FD was symbolic of letting it all go.

    Although I did wonder why he didn't also mention killing Mike to Jesse when he was telling him about watching Jane die.
    Jesse pretty much figured out that Walt killed Mike on his own. The Jane thing though, he completely clueless on.

    Edit: what lunchbox said.
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    Just thinking back now I think the first time we really see Heisenberg is when Tuco is about to shoot Jesse in the beginning of Season 2. His attitude and even voice changed in the one line where he said something like, "You're a degenerate and you deserve to die". This is what I love about this show. Seeds are planted way before we see the eventual flower bloom. It shows that the writers put a lot of thought into it. Unlike Dexter where every angle is introduced out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrown View Post
    Only two episodes left
    Glad there are 2 left. Half way thru this show, I thought they had only one left and there is no way they can tie it all up in 60 or 90 minutes.

    And the indian in the adobe house is now wondering how many more stacks of cash he could have really got for his truck...

    I liked when Skylar walked into the kitchen; she had the choice of "do I pick up the phone or do I pick up the knife?" I thought she would take the phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    My concern is that in tearing it all away and burning it to the ground the end is going to leave a bad taste, regardless of how appropriate and/or well done. Walt has never been as much of a soulless monster as he appears to be now. Saving Jesse and killing Jack and the Aryan bunch would go a long way. Don't feel sorry for Hank. He had a good death. He will be missed. The shot of baby Holly playing peek-a-boo while crying in the fire engine was heartbreaking.
    NO!

    Damn you JD!!!!!!

    You of all people!!! You that rant and rave about the popcorn munching masses of nudnicks who blindly gobble up main stream media pablum and prevent risk taking film makers and artists.

    I WANT A BITTER TASTE IN MY MOUTH.

    That's what this show IS.

    For Walt to come riding in on a white horse in the final episode to rescue Jesse from Nazi Meth Servitude without anything to gain would be a betrayal of the character and the show.

    Yes. I'm taking it way too seriously.

    As for whether or not Walt is a good or bad person NOW...

    I think a far more interesting exploration is "Was Walter White EVER a good person?"

    I would argue....

    No. No he wasn't.
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    I asked myself that question today, Doc. A good person would never have done the things Walter White has done. Like a comment I read on IMDB, bad people always justify their actions. Even Hitler didn't think he was being evil. We're watching this show from the point of view of Walter so we rationalize with him when in fact, he's the bad guy and in no way different from Gus.

    There is no reasonable way to rebuild the bridge between Walter and Jesse at this point. That ship has sailed and I would also say the same for Skyler and Marie.

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    The larger question of course is... if Walter White was never a good person....

    Are any of us? What is a "good person"? From the outset we've seen Walt compromise his alleged principles and values based on pride, greed and cowardice. Are any of us so different?

    GOD DAMMIT THIS IS A GOOD SHOW!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    "Was Walter White EVER a good person?"

    I would argue....

    No. No he wasn't.
    Walt appeared to have been a devoted/loving husband and father to a kid with cerebral palsy and a dedicated chemistry teacher for at least 16 years.

    It appears he was an upstanding citizen.

    What about that isn't good?

    What do they call the show again?
    Oh yeah, Breaking Bad.

    The term 'breaking bad' is a southern colloquialism and it means when someone who has taken a turn off the path of the straight and narrow, when they've gone wrong. And that could be for that day or for a lifetime.
    Breaking Bad - Breaking Bad Wiki

    The creator of the show has stated that the point of the show is that "actions have consequences".

    I think Walter White was a good person who...you know the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    The larger question of course is... if Walter White was never a good person....

    Are any of us? What is a "good person"? From the outset we've seen Walt compromise his alleged principles and values based on pride, greed and cowardice. Are any of us so different?

    GOD DAMMIT THIS IS A GOOD SHOW!!!!
    All of us have the potential to do bad or good.
    No matter how good you might be for an X amount of time, you could go off the deep end if you choose to.
    Walt decided to go off the deep end.

    After he went that route, he had outs.
    He could have straightened up and flown right, even after the time Hank discovered he was Heisenberg. (I have a little problem with the show over this. Why wouldn't Walt disappear himself and his family (the vacuum cleaner guy) after Hank made that discovery? What did he say to Uncle Jack? "You can be whatever you want".)
    He continuted to choose to do bad (made the confession recording saying that Hank was Heisenberg).

    What is a good person?
    It's all relative, isn't it?
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