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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    That's my point.

    We're presented with the idea that this otherwise perfectly decent human being becomes a monster based on the choices he makes when faced with a desperate situation (the cancer doncha know).

    But so early one we're given a glimpse into what kind of man Walter White is. He refuses money that could save his life and a job opportunity that would elevate him and his family out of middle class humdrummery.

    And he angrily refuses it.

    Why?

    Pride. Pride mixed with deceit, cowardice, avarice, resentment and a desire to control the people he claims to love and respect most in the world.

    Walter White does everything for his family? What kind of man would do the things he's done for his family if he truly loved them when the Gray Matter option is on the table?

    No.

    Walter White lived a decent life but he was not a decent man.
    Gray Matter and the knowledge that Hank would have taken care of them. Plus knowing that Skyler could have worked for Ted after he was gone. Walt is a prideful control freak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    Walt is a prideful control freak.
    While watching these last few episodes I began to wonder if there was any kind of parallel to be drawn between Walt and an addict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    That's my point.

    We're presented with the idea that this otherwise perfectly decent human being becomes a monster based on the choices he makes when faced with a desperate situation (the cancer doncha know).

    But so early one we're given a glimpse into what kind of man Walter White is. He refuses money that could save his life and a job opportunity that would elevate him and his family out of middle class humdrummery.

    And he angrily refuses it.

    Why?

    Pride. Pride mixed with deceit, cowardice, avarice, resentment and a desire to control the people he claims to love and respect most in the world.

    Walter White does everything for his family? What kind of man would do the things he's done for his family if he truly loved them when the Gray Matter option is on the table?
    I think that's a loose end that has yet to be tied up.
    Why was Walt so pissed at Gretchen and why did he refuse the job at Grey Matter?
    Is it those thing you state or is there more to it?
    I wonder if they'll address it.
    Not a lot of program left.
    Last edited by Bogey; September 17th, 2013 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    If Walt comes back to save Jesse and succeeds, Jesse would probably still kill Walt.
    Or...

    Maybe after time goes by, Walt learns that Jesse is still alive and cooking for Todd's group, and he is coming back to finish the job himself. The hardware is meant to be used in case the scum get in his way.

    Jesse had already gone to the cops once, and he could still affect Skylar and his kids future. My gut says Walt is done with Jesse.
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    Why would Todd (and family) even care about keeping Jesse around to cook? They just had $70m drop in their lap.

    Time to move to anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch 19 View Post
    Why would Todd (and family) even care about keeping Jesse around to cook? They just had $70m drop in their lap.

    Time to move to anywhere else.
    That's what I said when Hank figured out who Walt was.

    Disappear the family using Saul's contact.

    That wouldn't make for a very interesting story though and there were more episodes to make.
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    It's just greed. It's like the top 1%. They love getting richer even though they have enough to feed an entire country. It's an ego thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    That's what I said when Hank figured out who Walt was.

    Disappear the family using Saul's contact.

    That wouldn't make for a very interesting story though and there were more episodes to make.
    Just because Skyler would go along with it doesn't mean Walt Jr. would.

    The kid is almost 18. You can't just tell him "Hey... we're moving and changing our names and you can never see or talk to your family or friends ever again" and have him just roll with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    I think that's a loose end that has yet to be tied up.
    Why was Walt so pissed at Gretchen and why did he refuse the job at Grey Matter?
    Is it those thing you state or is there more to it?
    I wonder if they'll address it.
    Not a lot of program left.
    I think they already addressed it. Walt is a dick. Always has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    Just because Skyler would go along with it doesn't mean Walt Jr. would.

    The kid is almost 18. You can't just tell him "Hey... we're moving and changing our names and you can never see or talk to your family or friends ever again" and have him just roll with it.
    If Walt was such a dick, yes you could tell him that.

    Walt already told him something similar when Junior wanted to know why he had to stay at Hank & Marie's.

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