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    Quote Originally Posted by KFIT View Post
    It had been mentioned on Reddit already that someone transcribed a number of the newspaper headlines from the papers Walt received during his time in NH. In them, there were a number of news stories about Heisenberg/Walter White and his family, as well as mention about his associate, Jesse Pinkman, who was "assumed on the run" by federal authorities.

    Jesse's fingerprints were all over the meth lab and other areas of the Nazi's compound; but even the most basic forensic team would easily be able to deduce that:

    1) Jesse was being enslaved to cook meth there, due to the elaborate cable rigging system
    2) Jesse was being kept in a hole in the ground, as he rarely was ever afforded the ability to venture out of that area.
    Also the chains and bindings that clearly killed Todd would have Jesse's fingerprints and DNA all over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFIT View Post
    As for Jesse, he is by no means getting off scot free from a legal standpoint; but from an spiritual standpoint, he's as free as he's ever been. He's a caged bird that's endured so much pain, anguish, and torture, that the mere concept of "happiness" is a LONG WAY OFF from ever finding him. At this point, the mere freedom of being released from being under someone else's control is cathartic for him; it was what he needed as a mechanism to make his transformation. What's so odd is, there are SO MANY LAYERS to Jesse's situation at the end, that you could write a whole damn thesis on it. As a viewer, at first you relief for him and a sense of joy that he's free. Then you're overtaken by dismay and dread that, a) he'll still be on the lam forever, b) he has no friends c) he has no financial werewithal to assist him in rebuilding his life. Once that all settles in, you're ironically filled with comfort too, knowing that, while he's been through a tremendous amount of pain and loss all this time, he's grown exponentially as a human being. You see Jesse as a capable, highly intelligent, compassionate person. He's always "gotten by" and survived on his guile before, but now he's developed the requisite life skills to know how to turn such a dour situation as his going forward, into something useful. He'll never escape his demons, and he won't ever clear his name, but there's hope that somewhere (Alaska, maybe?) a young, talented artist? wood craftsman? etc. will ply his trade, with a name no one's familiar with in a small town he's never been in before.
    My concern with Jesse's "freedom" is that he's now quite literally all alone in the world with only those demons to keep him company. Those same demons had him on the path to suicide before the FBI picked him up with the duffel bag of money. Now he's got the death of Andrea and the knowledge that Brock will grow up without a mother weighing down on him. That's some heavy ****. Yes, he's free but everything else in his life is ****ed. It's bleak and all it takes is a moment of weakness for an addict to revert, as we saw in ep 12 "Rabid Dog." I'd say the odds are high that Jesse will go back to using.

    Damn. Now I'm depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubrick View Post
    My concern with Jesse's "freedom" is that he's now quite literally all alone in the world with only those demons to keep him company. Those same demons had him on the path to suicide before the FBI picked him up with the duffel bag of money. Now he's got the death of Andrea and the knowledge that Brock will grow up without a mother weighing down on him. That's some heavy ****. Yes, he's free but everything else in his life is ****ed. It's bleak and all it takes is a moment of weakness for an addict to revert, as we saw in ep 12 "Rabid Dog." I'd say the odds are high that Jesse will go back to using.

    Damn. Now I'm depressed.
    I dunno. I didn't get that impression. I get the impression he wants done with that world. He is an addict, so there's always going to be a danger there, but he was this close to letting Robert Forster disappear his ass to go start a new life and I (like to) think that that's what he'll do now. Make a fresh start as best he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adgy-san View Post
    I dunno. I didn't get that impression. I get the impression he wants done with that world. He is an addict, so there's always going to be a danger there, but he was this close to letting Robert Forster disappear his ass to go start a new life and I (like to) think that that's what he'll do now. Make a fresh start as best he can.
    Absolutely! And the only thing that stopped him was the thought of Brock being poisoned by Mr. White. Jesse couldn't control himself once he figured it out. He threw away his best shot at absolute freedom because of the rage he felt. Now maybe that rage has been exercised because Mr. White is dead but Jesse's always been one to carry guilt like an anchor around his neck. So I highly doubt that he will ever stop hating Mr. White. It really doesn't matter that he knows he's dead. Walt, just like the guilt of Andrea and Jane's deaths, will haunt him forever.
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    haha, being as i'm a fan of early 90s emo, i died when i saw this.
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    The audience is Jesse Pinkman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubrick View Post
    My concern with Jesse's "freedom" is that he's now quite literally all alone in the world with only those demons to keep him company. Those same demons had him on the path to suicide before the FBI picked him up with the duffel bag of money. Now he's got the death of Andrea and the knowledge that Brock will grow up without a mother weighing down on him. That's some heavy ****. Yes, he's free but everything else in his life is ****ed. It's bleak and all it takes is a moment of weakness for an addict to revert, as we saw in ep 12 "Rabid Dog." I'd say the odds are high that Jesse will go back to using.

    Damn. Now I'm depressed.
    It's OK. He doesn't actually exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    It's OK. He doesn't actually exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubrick View Post
    That is goddamned genius.
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    Hell on Wheels season 3 marathon followed by the season finale is tomorrow. Hope the swede gets whats comin to him.
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