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    Well, it's ok to post spoilers now cause if you did not watch it immediately...shame on you.

    So SPOILERS!!!!!!!


    Wow. Did not expect the episode title(Face off) to be soooooo literal...well, actually I kind of did. That....was awesome. And he straightened his tie. RIP Chicken Man. Always liked Giancarlo Esposito but he really took it to a whole new level here.
    And...with that lingering shot of the plant that Walt used to poison Brock he has completed his transformation. He is a MONSTER. Make no mistake. There is no longer any good there. Skyler recoiling over the phone was the first time I actually agreed with her. Straight up speculation here...that scene with Jessie holding a gun to Walts head may get a recall, Walt is now responsible for Jessie's girl's(sorry) death and the poisoning of Brock. Those chickens will come home to roost at some point. And, what of Mike? The now unemployed Mike. Do the boys resume cooking at some point? Hank? He doesn't seem likely to give this up, and finding the burnt out husk of the superlab and his being right about Fring is bound to light an even bigger fire under his ass. Just a tremendous show and such a bold move to sacrifice such a great character. This show has never been afraid to push things. Talk about a singular vision. Vince Gilligan...standing ovation. Seriously. 16 more episodes of brilliance to look forward to. And if all parties are still drawing breath at the end of this I will be amazed. And yes Kingsqueen I do intend to wear my Breaking Bad shirt(that you got me) today.


    Better call Saul!
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    http://tv.yahoo.com/news/breaking-ba...031000424.html

    [WARNING: The following story contains major spoilers about the Season 4 finale of Breaking Bad. Read at your own risk.]

    As Gustavo Fring, Breaking Bad's Giancarlo Esposito has embodied one of the most memorable TV villains ever. And he knows it.

    Breaking Bad finale: Who will survive the "Face Off"?

    "I think I've created a character that will live on for a long time in people's nightmares," the 53-year-old actor tells TVGuide.com with a laugh.

    First appearing as a meek owner of a chain of fried chicken restaurants, Gus quickly emerged as a calculating — and when need be, deadly — meth distributor who put Walt (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse (Aaron Paul) to work. Whether slitting an employee's throat with a box cutter or taking out what's left of the Mexican drug cartel with a poisoned bottle of tequila, Gus was always a portrait of menace.

    But almost all great villains don't outlive their opponents. Such is true for Gus, who in Breaking Bad's Season 4 finale was killed in grisly fashion when Walt rigged the wheelchair of Hector "Tio" Salamanca (Mark Margolis) with a bomb that finally took out the chicken man (and half of his face) once and for all.

    We chatted with Esposito about Gus' defiance even in death, whether we'll ever see Gus again in flashbacks, and why he thinks Walt will always be haunted by Gus.

    Great article and I highlighted the name of the actor who played Salamanca. Guy has been around a long time and if anyone ever acted so much without saying a word...
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    Interview: Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan post-mortems season 4 - HitFix.com
    Season finale review: Breaking Bad - Face Off: Say uncle - HitFix.com

    BREAKING BAD Season 4 Finale Recap: “Face Off”

    just when Gus was about to inject Hector with something very painful, Hector rang that bell one…last…time.

    And: BOOM.

    The shot of Hector’s exploding bedroom was impressive, but not as impressive as what immediately followed: after the door to the bedroom exploded out into the hall, smoke billowed from the room. Moments later, Gus emerged, looking no worse for the wear. We had just enough time to think, “Oh, come on!” and then…the camera panned around Gus, revealing that half of his head was missing. The people I watched tonight’s episode with went absolutely ape**** during this shot, but I sat there in stunned silence: I truthfully cannot recall being so utterly stunned by a TV show. Watching that shot, I had the feeling that I was watching TV history being made. I mean, even if you don’t like Breaking Bad, you’ve gotta admit that showing one of your lead villains with half his head blown off is a pretty groundbreaking bit of television. Let’s hope they steal the idea for a future episode of Two and a Half Men.
    Could not have said it better myself. And that little adjust of the tie. Man I am gonna be obsessed with this for the next week or so. I resisted the impulse to rewind/rewatch that scene because I want the horror of my initial reaction to have a chance to soak into my subconscious before I go all Zapruder on the thing. But...the frantic ringing of the bell, Gus's realization and, for the first time, complete lack of composure...just a hell of a thing. I cannot fathom that there are people that do not watch this show. Serious.


    Better Call Saul.


    B.T.W. it was mentioned in one of the earlier links...anyone else notice that Walt has been coughing a lot? Mike too. Hurm.
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    Breaking Bad “Face Off” Review | ApeDonkey

    First off...click on the link for a nice 1/2 portrait of Gus

    Second, there seems to be a lot of second guessing with the poisoning, the way it was presented, and the timeline. Interesting argument.

    The other thing that truly bugged me is the revelation that Walt poisoned Brock. Now don’t get me wrong, I have no doubts that Walt had reached a point of desperation and moral depravity that he was completely capable of poisoning a child for his own benefit. What I took issue with was his ability to plan that far ahead. Follow me here. This entire season, Walt has been two steps behind Gus, completely frazzled, paranoid and prone to rash half baked ideas. Poisoning Brock, removing the ricin from Jesse’s cigarettes and then staging that entire confrontation with him would take a level of planning that I don’t think Walt was in the state of mind to pull off. Even in his encounter with Saul’s secretary you can see how Walt’s propensity towards single mindedness and a general density towards personal overtones works against him. I get the purpose of revealing that to us. Walt has entered the realm where Gus lives. He’s broken completely bad. It’s no longer a means to and end. It is who he is. It’s a powerful tool to push the series into the next and final season. However, for the sake of this season, Brock’s poisoning works better as a fortunate accident. The little lucky break that Walt and Jesse needed to survive. Perhaps if this had been the series finale that final shot would have been left out but because they signed on for one more season they needed the catalyst for the final season.Even with the issues that linger, I thought the season was tied up perfectly. Going forward, Walt and Jesse had to break free of Gus and the only way to do that was to kill him off. Walt is now established as a person who know no boundaries when it comes to protecting his own interest and once again he has authority over Jesse. Walter White no longer exists. There is only Heisenberg.
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    Man, this season of Breaking Bad was SO good! And the finale was just the perfect cherry on top. The acting and character development on this show is superb.

    ** SPOILERS ** Man I really bought it when Walt desperately pleaded to Jesse about how he could never harm a child. Though I understood how Walt was in a downward spiral and had become quite a wicked man, I didn't quite realize just how far he had fallen until the very end. It makes Walters manic cackling in the basement even more impactful in retrospect, almost like that's the moment where his last shred of humanity finally leaves him. I knew that moment was coming but I somehow didn't quite expect to see it this soon, I was still hoping for him to be.. human. And him proudly declaring how he personally had "won" and doing it with such obvious pleasure and satisfaction. It just encapsulates the egocentric sociopath he has become beautifully.

    I don't watch very many shows but Breaking Bad makes me think I really should give a few other ones a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    I really need to check out "Breaking Bad." Anyone know if all the episodes are available somewhere?
    Seasons 1-3 are on DVD, Netflix, iTunes, etc.

    Season 4 is on iTunes.

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    Maybe I'll have some fried chicken for lunch today, in honor of the chicken man...
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    Breaking Bad... wow. Oh my ****ing god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsqueen View Post


    Maybe I'll have some fried chicken for lunch today, in honor of the chicken man...
    Speaking of...(from the article posted in #162)

    There's been a lot of speculation about Gus' relationship with Max (James Martinez), who we met in the flashback. Do you think they were more than friends?
    Esposito: I love that it's not so black and white. Gus took Max off the street in El Salvador and, probably more than any other chemist that Gus has hired, he nurtured Max. It was a long relationship. It's not surprising that people felt that they were lovers because ... their relationship was very, very deep. I think it's less than clear for a reason.


    Obviously, Max's death haunted Gus.
    Esposito: It's a defining moment in Gus' life, and it's very telling because it allows us to know what made him who he is. To see what got him to be so cool and calculating. He's been sick since that moment. He has not been able to get over it. He has lived his life [trying] to figure out how to get revenge for what happened.
    Did anyone else make that connection? While I see it now I still do not think they were lovers. Pollos Hermanos means the brothers chicken, right? Somehow I doubt they would go with 'brothers' is their relationship was different. I love the monday morning dissection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrown View Post
    Man, this season of Breaking Bad was SO good! And the finale was just the perfect cherry on top. The acting and character development on this show is superb.

    ** SPOILERS ** Man I really bought it when Walt desperately pleaded to Jesse about how he could never harm a child. Though I understood how Walt was in a downward spiral and had become quite a wicked man, I didn't quite realize just how far he had fallen until the very end. It makes Walters manic cackling in the basement even more impactful in retrospect, almost like that's the moment where his last shred of humanity finally leaves him. I knew that moment was coming but I somehow didn't quite expect to see it this soon, I was still hoping for him to be.. human. And him proudly declaring how he personally had "won" and doing it with such obvious pleasure and satisfaction. It just encapsulates the egocentric sociopath he has become beautifully.

    I don't watch very many shows but Breaking Bad makes me think I really should give a few other ones a chance.
    I just keep going back to the scene of Walt in the crawlspace (symbolic of the pits of Hell, anyone?) laughing as he shook loose his humanity (the death of mild-mannered Walt, the husband and father) and his acceptance of his life new life as a no holds-barred criminal. I have a feeling Walt will claim responsibility for the death of Gus and seize control of the cartel. He is Scarface, after all.
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