Come on... if you're so down on the guy, you got to have a reason. Seeing him on stuff like Aqua Teen, Reno 911, Observe And Report... all of that stuff was great. I don't watch everything the guy does, but when I do see him he usually adds something.But yeah, Naysay is right, for the time being, his name adds a certain clout to anything. And we all fall for it because we like the guy, but it rarely ever works out does it? Look at Craig Robinson. There is a guy who never disappoints. No matter how small the part. If he's in it i know i am gonna have a giggle. Patton not so much. You ask me to cite examples...how about I cite you the one example where I wasn't completely disappointed...the Futurama episode he was on. Other than that and Big Fan I would be hard pressed to remember anything good or bad that i saw him in.
I will concede that his being cast in the movie might bring in a few extra tickets that it otherwise wouldn't have, but I really have not gotten the feeling that his presence has enough clout to make any kind of real difference for the movie. Is that really a more likely scenario than the director/producers just enjoying the guys work and thinking he might be a good fit for the style of comedy that Reitman and Cody bring?
Again, I'm not giving anyone **** for disliking that type of movie, but I don't see any reason to bash Patton over it.
And I would still like to know what, exactly, makes me a sort of hipster, Doc. Is it what I like, or why I like it?
This thread is my first time hearing of Patton.
Only by living absurdly is it possible to break out of this infinite absurdity.
But other than Big Fan, when has he had the opportunity to step outside the Patton box?
Well, clearly our opinions on that film and his performance differ. I'm not about to recommend him for an oscar, but I thought he did a fine job.When he does act it is like in Big Fan where he just dumbs it down and plays a vomit. It always feels like he is acting. To call him a good actor is unfair to the people who earn a living doing that.
How so? Because I think he's acquitted himself well? I must only think that because I'm a fan of his comedy?And he really does have that 'pavlov's dog' reaction in his fans. You proved that point yourself.
Who is being accused of being a hipster here, again?
I don't see it. I see it as an added bonus, and I don't think everyone shares the same opinion of his acting abilities that you have. I'm still not sure exactly where you're basing your opinion on his acting abilities from, since all you've mentioned is Big Fan. But if you think everyone agrees with you... who's being naive?If you don't think that studios get that and use it then you are naive. It's stunt-casting at it's finest.
I'm not even saying you're totally wrong. I just haven't seen any evidence to support what you're saying and it seems more likely to me that that isn't the case.
Are you sure you're not just trying to find a reason, any reason, to bash the film in question?
Nope. I don't need to manufacture a reason to bash a movie that I feel is going to be worthless to me. And we keep going around on this issue, I seem to be having the same problem with Naysay...yes, I believe in my opinions, and in order to do that I have to believe they are right. Just as you do. Are either one of us empirically right/wrong? No. For me, I firmly believe everything I posted about Patton and everything else. You disagree. That's why we have this forum. To both express our OPINIONS. In my eyes I cannot see why you would like this movie, just as you cannot see why I won't. It's ok to disagree. I am not trying to change your opinion. It is what it is, neither one of us has a MORE VALID point. Maybe I came at this with more venom than I needed to...Reitmans flicks bug me. And if you look at what we both posted we more or less agree on the Patton-as-a-cameo point. As far as the Pavlovs dog thing...I used to, as you said you still do, perk up every time I read that Patton was going to be in something. But, unlike you, I have tempered that initial reaction because he seldom lives up to the 'instant excitement' that I used to have. Personal preferences. No big deal son.
Now shut up and gimme some sugar.