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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    And I agree with you, to a point mmmcammy, the scene was a little rape-y, but not as obviously as you may be judging it.
    I have to disagree with you there. that was straight up rape. her consent is given in the books and it obviously was not given in the show. I'm sick of these writers and directors treating sexual assault like something that "just happens," and the fact that they made the conscious decision to add more when it's something that isn't straight from the book just pisses me off.

    it was clearly done for shock value and it completely undid any of Jaime's positive character development. it was just really gross and unnecessary.

    apart from that scene, I enjoyed the rest of the episode. Tywin's scene with Tommen at the beginning was fantastic. Charles Dance is pretty much the best. I'm really excited for the rest of this season. Tyrion's trial should shape up to be pretty damn good. oh, and why was Oberyn wearing pants during an orgy? wtf?
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    Btw, last nights episode sucked. As mmmmmmmmmmmmmmcammy mentioned earlier, I was really frustrated with the incest/semi-rape scene. Also, the final scene with Daenerys and her army was very.....meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DotUKings View Post
    So wouldn't the proper term be a politicians haircut? I don't see much of a difference in hair between party lines. I think you can do better if you want to insult Republicans.
    Ok, I stand corrected. Personally, I see the Lannisters being staunch Republicans(not a judgement imo, just statement of what I perceive to be fact)...but you took insult where none was meant. Calling someone a Republican does not constitute an insult. If it makes you feel better I will correct.

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    Looks like we have differing opinions on the extent of the rape-iness of Jaime/Cersei's encounter. Me, I was turned off from the incest angle of the whole thing, and maybe I didn't see it the same way as mmmcammy/Ecktore because I hate Cersei so much. What do the rest of you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Looks like we have differing opinions on the extent of the rape-iness of Jaime/Cersei's encounter. Me, I was turned off from the incest angle of the whole thing, and maybe I didn't see it the same way as mmmcammy/Ecktore because I hate Cersei so much. What do the rest of you think?
    It was rape. I assumed that Cersei wasn't totally against it, despite her words, but the audience shouldn't have to assume anything, especially with something as serious as rape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Looks like we have differing opinions on the extent of the rape-iness of Jaime/Cersei's encounter. Me, I was turned off from the incest angle of the whole thing, and maybe I didn't see it the same way as mmmcammy/Ecktore because I hate Cersei so much. What do the rest of you think?
    Yup. Rape. What made it even worse to me is that they had set it up from Episode 1 as Jamie being a guy who just wanted to bang her and perpetuating stereotypes that guys have to have what they have to have and girls leading them on and "deserving" it.

    Even though Dany had (in my opinion) a worse violation in Season 1, this one felt worse because the Lannisters are supposed to be above the Dothraki. Considering the books have it more consensual (according to you who have read them), this was entirely unnecessary.

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    Still continue to hold my grudge that the producers made Stannis "bad" instead of "matter of fact"
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    Game Of Thrones Breaker of Chains Episode Breaks Fans Hearts Instead

    Last night HBO and 'Game of Thrones' messed up y'all, they messed up real bad.

    Warning: Spoilers for Season 4 beyond this point.

    Warning 2: Nerd rage over character development and/or plot missteps beyond this point.

    Warning 3: Trigger warning for sexual assault beyond this point.

    Warning 4: No more warnings beyond this point.


    Read more at Game Of Thrones Breaker of Chains Episode Breaks Fans Hearts Instead
    Those of you who don't like the book vs show arguments may want to stay out here. Personally, I think they might have wanted to remind us that Jaime is not as warm and fuzzy as he has come off on the tv show. He really has been more charming than not after pushing Bran out of the window. And before I judge whether they screwed the pooch as far as the decision, I have trust in the showrunners and I want to see where they are gonna go with it.


    Ok, lets get this out of the way, Rape is horrible. I put it on my list of movie dealbreakers right under animal violence. BUT, and I am not condoning, merely stating, in the time/context of the books Women do not have an easy road. At best they are used as power objects for alliance sealing forced marraiges, at worst, most have but one occupation to look forward too. So...not that it isn't distasteful, and you shouldn't be offended, but it is what it is. Unfortunate, but indicitive of the lives that people at that time would lead. I just don't want anyone thinking that I did not give the proper gravity to last nights scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Game Of Thrones Breaker of Chains Episode Breaks Fans Hearts Instead



    Those of you who don't like the book vs show arguments may want to stay out here. Personally, I think they might have wanted to remind us that Jaime is not as warm and fuzzy as he has come off on the tv show. He really has been more charming than not after pushing Bran out of the window. And before I judge whether they screwed the pooch as far as the decision, I have trust in the showrunners and I want to see where they are gonna go with it.


    Ok, lets get this out of the way, Rape is horrible. I put it on my list of movie dealbreakers right under animal violence. BUT, and I am not condoning, merely stating, in the time/context of the books Women do not have an easy road. At best they are used as power objects for alliance sealing forced marraiges, at worst, most have but one occupation to look forward too. So...not that it isn't distasteful, and you shouldn't be offended, but it is what it is. Unfortunate, but indicitive of the lives that people at that time would lead. I just don't want anyone thinking that I did not give the proper gravity to last nights scene.
    All well and good...but why do you have a guy save someone from being raped in the last season, and then explain that he killed the last king because he raped his wife............rape someone? He was CLEARLY a person who despised it. Now he does it? There are/were better ways to make you hate the guy or give him some moral ambiguity than having him rape his sister next to their dead son. It was just a poor decision by the people running things to change how it went from the book. When the best the people involved with the decision can come up with was, "well, it was only kind of rape because she was confused", you have to question that judgement.

    Having said that though, it's still odd how THIS is the thing that is being discussed when, in previous seasons, there's been all sorts of rape. Not of the was she into it or not variety either. Straight up tearing off of clothes, submissive, bringing tears to the eyes, violent rape.
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