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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    I find it interesting that most of the book readers of this series are the ones saying it's ok. I wonder how much of that is because that's how it was written versus you thinking it makes for good TV. Also, by good TV I don't mean entertaining. I mean strategically in the interest of holding viewers.
    Yeah, I can't answer that about the TV show. It's a good point as I've said TV and books are different animals as to whether the audience will stick with it. I just don't know.

    I only just started on the books a few months ago (in B4 now) so it's all new to me. However, there hasn't been much "feel good" so far so it's pretty much in lock-step with the TV show in that regard . I stick with it because there is a lot more to come....

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    This is my favorite part of Game of Thrones....



    The talking and the boobing.

    MORE OF THAT! LESS OF WEDDING MASSACRES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    I find it interesting that most of the book readers of this series are the ones saying it's ok. I wonder how much of that is because that's how it was written versus you thinking it makes for good TV. Also, by good TV I don't mean entertaining. I mean strategically in the interest of holding viewers.
    I think it's because all us book readers went thru this already. Ask Kingsqueen...I texted her from the laundromat(I remember the exact moment...it hit me that hard) stunned that something so horrifying and seemingly meaningless had occured. I can honestly say that I put the book down for a while and went thru the same crisis of conscience that a lot of you are suffering. But eventually...I was drawn back in. I forgave and, as I have said earlier, went thru all the stages of grief.

    So does that make it good tv? Yes, I honestly think so. BECAUSE it subverts your expectations and challenges everything you have been taught by tv so far. The good always prevail, evil always loses, etc. See, not specific to anyone, but the converse to your argument is those who would claim something 'plays it safe'. Or 'I was never really worried'. For me some of the most memorable moments on screen have been things that you just did not see coming. The end of the Thing(carpenter version). Or deaths that you don't want to happen(Hudson in Aliens, DeNiro in Heat). It's real stakes. Real consequences. And you may not like it...but how can you question whether this is good tv? Read all the conversation it has generated and the true feelings of despair it has affected folks with. I swear I want to give Doc a hug and a cookie. There is your proof that it is beyond good tv. EVERYONE CARES. And yes, there may be some that lose interest, truly challenging stuff ain't for everyone which is why Big Bang Theory exists. But first off...if they are still watching in S3 they probably are in for the long run. And if not...how many noobs will see the passion that these events have generated and think they may be missing something. Hell, Ned's death made me tuck into the books because I swore on my honor as a Tully that i would not get gutpunched like that again. I guarantee you dvd/blu sales are up and book sales too. The difference between this how and Walking Dead is that Game does not use up a character and then sweep them under the rug. It was terrific how Weiss/Benioff used Rob's future war plans and the whole baby name thing to misdirect. I think everyone could feel something coming...they just were not expecting the Stark line to be almost decimated.

    Really though...guess what. All this passion means one thing. We are all inextricably hooked. Face it.

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    OK fine I'm still going to keep watching.

    BUT......

    Somebody better kill some black hats and fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    OK fine I'm still going to keep watching.

    BUT......

    Somebody better kill some black hats and fast.
    They will probably...then they're remove it and you find out Sansa was wearing it.

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    I'm actually reminded of my youth when I was a huge wrestling fan. Week after week we'd see the baddies screwing the good guys until the good guys would get their one week to toy with the bad guys. Then it would start all over again. Is Vince McMahon writing this?

    Edit: I'm frustrated but not complaining.
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    You should be frustrated...complaining...hurt...angry...all valid feelings. Thats why it succeeds. On a normal show, someone dies. You feel bad, maybe write an angry letter, but you get over it. GRR Martin doesn't want you to accept these deaths with a smile. He wants you to hurt. THATS why it succeeds. Death sucks. It hurts. Feel it. You will still be angry about this when season 4 starts(are you over Ned yet????). That's the weight with which the choices were designed. He doesn't kill characters because he can't figure out what else to do(Walking Dead).
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    'Game of Thrones': No wedding ratings gift | Inside TV | EW.com

    Not surprising. they were off for the holiday and gave NO indication that this was the week to watch. Proud that they sacrificed potential record numbers in order to keep the gutpunch intact. Kudos to HBO for trusting in the show to sell itself. Guarantee you the finale' WILL have another record setting grab simply because nobody is gonna want to get caught unawares again.
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    Thrones showrunner criticizes 'sanitized' TV violence | Blastr

    Game of Thrones producer Dan Weiss chimed in during a recent panel about television violence, noting the “sanitized” style often shown on network and cable television shows can start to desensitize a generation to the true brutality of death.

    It’s an interesting note, especially from a guy partially responsible for bringing the gruesomely insane “Red Wedding” to life just a few days ago. Here’s an excerpt from his comments:

    "Violence in the real world is awful to witness. But it's the sanitized versions of violence on TV that are worse ... On network TV, people die in droves in a way that's clean and easy to watch and fun. It's more like an old video game...

    Especially with the gore, there's a line beyond which it starts to work against itself and... looks like The Evil Dead 2 - it becomes a splatterfest.”

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