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    You guys are all making great points. Yes Mondo...that's an awesome observation. This was a horror movie for geeks made by geeks.

    It's hard to classify this because it is not as easily filed away as most. I think peoples inability to label it definitely verifies that it was a very 'off-the-beaten-path' kind of flick. I saw this the same day as DETENTION, which is also a head-scratcher. I strongly recommend you guys see that too. It's a lot more abstract and very open to interpretation so I look very much forward to your opinions of it. It's good to see that some folks are still pushing the boundaries of genre films even if the results are mixed.

    I ordered the novelization of cabin...which is based on the original screenplay. According to the amazon reviews some of the more FAQ's are addressed in the book. So some of the clarity may have been sacrificed in the editing room. I will tell you what i find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    You guys are all making great points. Yes Mondo...that's an awesome observation. This was a horror movie for geeks made by geeks.

    It's hard to classify this because it is not as easily filed away as most. I think peoples inability to label it definitely verifies that it was a very 'off-the-beaten-path' kind of flick. I saw this the same day as DETENTION, which is also a head-scratcher. I strongly recommend you guys see that too. It's a lot more abstract and very open to interpretation so I look very much forward to your opinions of it. It's good to see that some folks are still pushing the boundaries of genre films even if the results are mixed.

    I ordered the novelization of cabin...which is based on the original screenplay. According to the amazon reviews some of the more FAQ's are addressed in the book. So some of the clarity may have been sacrificed in the editing room. I will tell you what i find out.
    Yeah, my concerns could probably be swept aside with two or three short scenes to detail the what's and why's - for all I know they could have been cut. I pm'd those questions instead of doing the whole spoiler bit, so if you get those answers please let me know!
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    gladly.

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    Psh... I wanna know!

    Anyway...

    The difference, for me, between this and Scream is mystery.

    While the entire explanation of Cabin isn't given until the end... the audience is aware of more than the "victims". Whereas in Scream the audience is kept in the dark until the final reveal.

    Scream was a horror movie that featured main characters that parodied horror through dialog. Cabin in the Woods is a satire/parody/homage of horror movies.

    I realize it's a subtle difference and arguing over where it belongs in the iTunes store (cus video stores are almost extinct) is silly.
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    No...it's a great argument Doc. This movie is all about subtle differences. I disagree with your points about the reveal. I think the reveal just keeps coming, keeps twisting...and when the weird cameo occurs it's almost a wink/wink but yet another maguffin. I honestly think the best thing about Cabin is that it serpentines and tries, in a spoiler age where you get force fed everything, to constantly not be what you expect it to be. Your disappointment and 'you can't always get what you want' comment lends credence to that. Am I too drunk to make any sense(GO DEVILS) or is that valid?

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    No I get what you're saying... but I'll disagree (cus why not) and say that while you may not know EXACTLY what's going on in Cabin... you know enough.

    In Scream.... you had no idea. The extra layer in Cabin is what makes it not "primarily" horror in my book. That and the fact that I laughed way more than I felt "fear tension". And I don't say that derisively. I think they did an excellent job with the parts that were meant to be "horror" moments... I just think they hit more comedic notes. Maybe it's because that's my orientation and you and Mondo have ****ty humor taste (see : MacGruber ) but love horror.
    HAH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    No I get what you're saying... but I'll disagree (cus why not) and say that while you may not know EXACTLY what's going on in Cabin... you know enough.

    In Scream.... you had no idea. The extra layer in Cabin is what makes it not "primarily" horror in my book. That and the fact that I laughed way more than I felt "fear tension". And I don't say that derisively. I think they did an excellent job with the parts that were meant to be "horror" moments... I just think they hit more comedic notes. Maybe it's because that's my orientation and you and Mondo have ****ty humor taste (see : MacGruber ) but love horror.
    HAH!
    Well...my personal opinion is that you are judging the movie as a comedy based solely on the Bradley Whitford(who you have been none too shy in professing man-love for) and Richard Jenkins portion of the movie. If that is the part of the movie that you find most lovable(and I cannot argue) it's easy to understand your viewpoint. But, since there are SO many pov's in this movie(which makes it so great) there are all kinds of arguments to be made. As a horror movie fan I identified with the archetypes, so i probably looked at the movie from a different space than you did. See, this is where Mondo's point about a geek flick made by geeks weighs in. That's why it's so clever/meta...depending on where you find yourself on the geek scale this movie is almost like one of those 'write your own adventure' kind of books from our childhood. It's a lot more subtle than most people are giving it credit for, at least i.m.o.

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    Sure...

    but even if you want to take the point of view of the "Cabineers" as "main protagonists".... even THAT was 50/50 laugh to horror.

    So... I dunno I just see this as a 65/35 comedy/horror split.

    Now.... almost all of the laughs are completely dependent on existence of real horror elements that actually matter and carry weight... but still. Comedy.
    This is the most fun pointless argument/conversation/whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    Sure...

    but even if you want to take the point of view of the "Cabineers" as "main protagonists".... even THAT was 50/50 laugh to horror.

    So... I dunno I just see this as a 65/35 comedy/horror split.

    Now.... almost all of the laughs are completely dependent on existence of real horror elements that actually matter and carry weight... but still. Comedy.
    This is the most fun pointless argument/conversation/whatever
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    Probably...but the most important thing the confusion generates is validation. I can be swayed by your argument...that's why I love this movie. We have all had a tremendous discussion whilst tapdancing around spoilers. Any movie that generates this kind of fanboy fervor is a win as far as i am concerned. The latest SAW flick, people love it or hate it...Paranormal Activity 15...the same. This movie has us all scratching our heads and arguing semantics. In my eyes that qualifies as a win.

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    The fact that this movie and Trick Or Treat sat on a shelf for two years should lead to people being fired.
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