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    This is interesting.

    I thought Killian/Mandarin was a totally compelling and interesting character twist........

    UNTIL Killian started breathing fire and heat punching people in the face.

    I would have much rather seen a finale that didn't feature a fist fight on a 'splosion farm with the POTUS strung up in the sky.

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    And...the Extremis thing. Ok, first of all Rebecca Hall(? that's her name ain't it)'s character was yet another empty plot driving contrivance. First she's good then she's bad then she's good...whatever. Nobody has even mentioned her so she really made an impact. And yeah, Pearce breathing fire etc...the whole point was that the tech was unstable, Hence the human bomb conveniences and Hall's struggle to get Stark to solve the flaw. Yet...Killian and his associate seemed to not only have it under control, but their side effects were corraled into powers. With no explanation whatsoever. This movie was constantly feeding me **** and telling me it was ice cream. Sorry Doc, but a 3rd movie has to strive to be special to justify itself. I don't buy in on the dimisnhing returns thing and therefore write them a pass. This movie was LAZY. And it was trying too hard to be cutesy. I already saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and it was a much better movie. And sorry SK, but as much as I love Pearce he can't even be in the same room as Rockwell. Two of my faves were in #2, him and Mickey...go back and rewatch, I guarantee you it's a more satisfying movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    And...the Extremis thing. Ok, first of all Rebecca Hall(? that's her name ain't it)'s character was yet another empty plot driving contrivance. First she's good then she's bad then she's good...whatever. Nobody has even mentioned her so she really made an impact. And yeah, Pearce breathing fire etc...the whole point was that the tech was unstable, Hence the human bomb conveniences and Hall's struggle to get Stark to solve the flaw. Yet...Killian and his associate seemed to not only have it under control, but their side effects were corraled into powers. With no explanation whatsoever. This movie was constantly feeding me **** and telling me it was ice cream. Sorry Doc, but a 3rd movie has to strive to be special to justify itself. I don't buy in on the dimisnhing returns thing and therefore write them a pass. This movie was LAZY. And it was trying too hard to be cutesy. I already saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and it was a much better movie. And sorry SK, but as much as I love Pearce he can't even be in the same room as Rockwell. Two of my faves were in #2, him and Mickey...go back and rewatch, I guarantee you it's a more satisfying movie.
    I just mean it was the same character. Rich guy mad at Tony Stark hires someone to be bad.

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    Well yeah...but Rockwell is better

    And Brownie, if you want to see a superhero movie that's not got much superhero in it...why are you going to a superhero movie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Well yeah...but Rockwell is better

    And Brownie, if you want to see a superhero movie that's not got much superhero in it...why are you going to a superhero movie?
    Oh no doubt. I still can't shake Guy Pearce as being the good cop after LA Confidential. So, him as a baddie doesn't work for me. I mean, I had fun at the movie, don't get me wrong. Just felt like everyone was cashing checks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Well yeah...but Rockwell is better

    And Brownie, if you want to see a superhero movie that's not got much superhero in it...why are you going to a superhero movie?
    That's fair. I'm generally not actually a big fan of superhero movies. I didn't like any of the spiderman, hulk, superman, fantastic four, punisher, daredevil, hellboy, ghost rider movies. I'm sure I'm forgetting some

    I'm just saying my least favorite parts of Iron Man were the sequences where he was in the suit (or controlling it). I enjoy everything around it, him working on and trying out different parts, tinkering... everything like that is fine and can be interesting. It's just when the suit is fully on he's an expressionless unstoppable CGI fighting machine and I didn't really care for the action scenes in this particular movie. As I've previously mentioned the final showdown was tiresome with an endless supply of battle suits bailing him out at any point of danger and the scene with him saving people falling out of an airplane was laughable. "I'm gonna apply an electric pulse through your body so your hand won't let go of the person you're holding on to", are you kidding me? His home getting attacked was pretty good though, but then again he wasn't fully suited up for that one until the very end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrown View Post
    That's fair. I'm generally not actually a big fan of superhero movies. I didn't like any of the spiderman, hulk, superman, fantastic four, punisher, daredevil, hellboy, ghost rider movies. I'm sure I'm forgetting some

    I'm just saying my least favorite parts of Iron Man were the sequences where he was in the suit (or controlling it). I enjoy everything around it, him working on and trying out different parts, tinkering... everything like that is fine and can be interesting. It's just when the suit is fully on he's an expressionless unstoppable CGI fighting machine and I didn't really care for the action scenes in this particular movie. As I've previously mentioned the final showdown was tiresome with an endless supply of battle suits bailing him out at any point of danger and the scene with him saving people falling out of an airplane was laughable. "I'm gonna apply an electric pulse through your body so your hand won't let go of the person you're holding on to", are you kidding me? His home getting attacked was pretty good though, but then again he wasn't fully suited up for that one until the very end.
    Speaking of that part...felt like they went to the well too often. It was like...Iron Man got hit by a truck!!! Psych. Iron Man died this way! Nope. So on and so on. Felt like it cheapened the dramatic.
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    The highlights of the movie were Ben Kingsley (him unexpectedly coming out of the bathroom after taking a dump cracked me up) and the small scene where the guy who was talking to his mom on his cell freaked out when he saw Tony Stark. Other than that, everything JD has said. Though I agree with Doc that I prefer more character and less superhero. That makes the superhero parts special.
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    Feige and Black reveal why SHIELD cant save Stark in Iron Man 3

    Just for conversation, I assume this may address some of your concerns Doc.

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