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    I plan to. If it ever comes up on TCM again.

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    Oh, and is the Godfather 2 really better than the first one? I don't see it. :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by orpheus View Post
    Oh, and is the Godfather 2 really better than the first one? I don't see it. :O
    I think it is, but it's rrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeallly close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adgy-san View Post
    I like Vertigo better than Citizen Kane, but I only saw Kane for the first time earlier this year. I liked it a lot, but it didn't hit me in any special way. I would like to give it repeat viewings because it seems like the kind of movie that would be better with them, but I don't really have time. I've got so much other **** to watch.
    Several of the films on the list, Kane among them, are elevated when considered with relation to cinematic technical and/or real-life historical (though mainly the former) context.

    Overall, it's an odd sort of top 50. It feels somewhat personal, and often seems to purposefully stray from the expected. Some of the films on the list probably benefit from current trends or recent presentation of the films themselves or the filmmakers. Some of the odd quirks in the list make it feel to me sort of like, for example, the discussion of who is the greatest center in NBA history. I suppose that's what makes these kinds of lists fun, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTigerIn View Post
    Several of the films on the list, Kane among them, are elevated when considered with relation to cinematic technical and/or real-life historical (though mainly the former) context.
    No doubt! You could make that argument for a LOT of the films on this list. And if you try showing them to someone without any context of the time they were made in, you frequently have to!

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    Godfather is better simply because of James 'Sonny' Caan. I will tolerate NO argument on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Godfather is better simply because of James 'Sonny' Caan. I will tolerate NO argument on this.
    I thought Santino was a bad Don.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Godfather is better simply because of James 'Sonny' Caan. I will tolerate NO argument on this.
    This!!!

    Dunno, the first Godfather isn't as accomplished as the second, but dammit, so iconic. If my memory serves me right, Caan has a cameo in the second, but primadonna, lol, Brando decided not to be in the second.

    But anyways, what somebody told me, these films are really about Pacino's character. And in the first film, he is pretty much a victim of circumstance, but it the second film he goes all sort of Machiavellian, and that makes the second film, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orpheus View Post
    But anyways, what somebody told me, these films are really about Pacino's character. And in the first film, he is pretty much a victim of circumstance, but it the second film he goes all sort of Machiavellian, and that makes the second film, maybe?
    This is pretty much what puts the second one ahead for me. I really like the cold, calculating Michael Corleone at the height of his power stuff.

    No disrespect to Mr. Caan, of course.
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    the first one is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nuanced and far better. at some point it became chic to believe II was better, and it never looked back. i think it has a lot to do with De Niro coming hard off Mean Streets into a young Vito Corleone... and culminated with Taxi Driver like a year later.

    his hot snatch era.


    there isn't ONE scene in either of the sequels that, to me, can touch the moment Michael goes to the hospital to visit Vito unattended, up through to the point when Enzo lights his cig... IMPACT!
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