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**jerseydevil** · February 7th, 2013, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by adgy-san

DC Cancels Firestorm, Ravagers, Hawkman, Deathstroke, Sword Of Sorcery And Team 7. - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors

Jeez. Team 7 is, what, 4 months old? I think that's about as many issues as Justin Jordan has been on Deathstroke, too.

Sheesh.

Just saw this. What a ****-up they have made of things. Deathstroke, looking to feature strongly on ARROW, and pretty much a possible Deadpool type for DC and they can't make it work on the page. Hawkman, Firestorm...yet another failed attempt to make those characters connect. Well done DC. Maybe if you shift creative teams around and twiddle yer fiddles while Rome burns you can blow more opportunities. Just strip your lines down to the big guns and JLA and have done with it already. Way to dismantle Vertigo too. God...it bristles how Marvel can just keep rolling out the crap and making bank while Dc cannot find a way to get their thumbs out of their asses because their heads are in the way. Pathetic.

**Dr. Naysay** · February 7th, 2013, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Just saw this. What a ****-up they have made of things. Deathstroke, looking to feature strongly on ARROW, and pretty much a possible Deadpool type for DC and they can't make it work on the page. Hawkman, Firestorm...yet another failed attempt to make those characters connect. Well done DC. Maybe if you shift creative teams around and twiddle yer fiddles while Rome burns you can blow more opportunities. Just strip your lines down to the big guns and JLA and have done with it already. Way to dismantle Vertigo too. God...it bristles how Marvel can just keep rolling out the crap and making bank while Dc cannot find a way to get their thumbs out of their asses because their heads are in the way. Pathetic.

Here's the insanely annoying part of it...

I've been arguing for YEARS that they should just scrap the illusion of continuity and just reboot their entire Universe.......

then out of nowhere they claim that's what they're doing........................

but they don't actually commit to it. Superman is still supposed to have died... but when? how? Batman's entire history is supposed to have happened... but it's impossible.

Green Lantern was supposed to carry over it's story lines... but THAT'S impossible.

Meanwhile they're trying to wrap all their Wildstorm bull**** and Vertigo into the same narrative as the Superman/WW/Batman stuff so now Grifter is facing off against classic DC characters and Martian Manhunter is on Stormwatch and.... and...........

it's all just garbage.

Burn it all to the ground. Start over. REALLY start over.

*sigh*

Also.........

Nothing pisses me off more than reading/watching a story about time travel where the characters are over reacting to time differences.

EXAMPLE... the newest X-Men book where the original X-men are time warped from their teen selves to present day. Young Cyclops can't understand bottled water.... **** you writer. How old is Cyclops supposed to be today? Let's just say 40 shall we? That means young Cyclops (let's make him.... 15 just to be generous) has jumped 25 years into the future.

Making "his time" 1988. You know what they had back in 1988? Bottled water.

**jerseydevil** · February 7th, 2013, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay

Here's the insanely annoying part of it...

I've been arguing for YEARS that they should just scrap the illusion of continuity and just reboot their entire Universe.......

then out of nowhere they claim that's what they're doing........................

but they don't actually commit to it. Superman is still supposed to have died... but when? how? Batman's entire history is supposed to have happened... but it's impossible.

Green Lantern was supposed to carry over it's story lines... but THAT'S impossible.

Meanwhile they're trying to wrap all their Wildstorm bull**** and Vertigo into the same narrative as the Superman/WW/Batman stuff so now Grifter is facing off against classic DC characters and Martian Manhunter is on Stormwatch and.... and...........

it's all just garbage.

Burn it all to the ground. Start over. REALLY start over.

*sigh*

Also.........

Nothing pisses me off more than reading/watching a story about time travel where the characters are over reacting to time differences.

EXAMPLE... the newest X-Men book where the original X-men are time warped from their teen selves to present day. Young Cyclops can't understand bottled water.... **** you writer. How old is Cyclops supposed to be today? Let's just say 40 shall we? That means young Cyclops (let's make him.... 15 just to be generous) has jumped 25 years into the future.

Making "his time" 1988. You know what they had back in 1988? Bottled water.

Thats some damned fine RANT doc

**adgy-san** · February 8th, 2013, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Just saw this. What a ****-up they have made of things. Deathstroke, looking to feature strongly on ARROW, and pretty much a possible Deadpool type for DC and they can't make it work on the page. Hawkman, Firestorm...yet another failed attempt to make those characters connect. Well done DC. Maybe if you shift creative teams around and twiddle yer fiddles while Rome burns you can blow more opportunities. Just strip your lines down to the big guns and JLA and have done with it already. Way to dismantle Vertigo too. God...it bristles how Marvel can just keep rolling out the crap and making bank while Dc cannot find a way to get their thumbs out of their asses because their heads are in the way. Pathetic.

I'm assuming by this you mean that they're constantly telling stories of no real consequence and re-hashing stuff that's been done before. All of which is true. But, honestly, almost all this Marvel Now stuff is ****ing great so far.

Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay

Here's the insanely annoying part of it...

I've been arguing for YEARS that they should just scrap the illusion of continuity and just reboot their entire Universe.......

then out of nowhere they claim that's what they're doing........................

but they don't actually commit to it. Superman is still supposed to have died... but when? how? Batman's entire history is supposed to have happened... but it's impossible.

Green Lantern was supposed to carry over it's story lines... but THAT'S impossible.

Meanwhile they're trying to wrap all their Wildstorm bull**** and Vertigo into the same narrative as the Superman/WW/Batman stuff so now Grifter is facing off against classic DC characters and Martian Manhunter is on Stormwatch and.... and...........

it's all just garbage.

Burn it all to the ground. Start over. REALLY start over.

*sigh*

Couldn't agree more. If Johns and Morrison's being in the middle of or having just finished giant storylines that took years to tell was going to be a problem, then they shouldn't have even bothered with the reboot.

Also.........

Nothing pisses me off more than reading/watching a story about time travel where the characters are over reacting to time differences.

EXAMPLE... the newest X-Men book where the original X-men are time warped from their teen selves to present day. Young Cyclops can't understand bottled water.... **** you writer. How old is Cyclops supposed to be today? Let's just say 40 shall we? That means young Cyclops (let's make him.... 15 just to be generous) has jumped 25 years into the future.

Making "his time" 1988. You know what they had back in 1988? Bottled water.

I agree, and it's starting to grate on my nerves the way Bendis writes every single character in the world the EXACT same way ("snappy" dialogue), but even despite all that I'm enjoying this book. More than I wanted or was expecting to.