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    Superior Foes Of Spider-Man is really ****ing funny. It's going to end soon, though. :(
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    **** yeah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by adgy-san View Post
    Good read, thanks for posting the link. I think the author is right on the money, personally, but for me... for the most part, it doesn't bother me. It's pretty rare that I buy a comic based solely on the artist attached to the book. A good artist is very important and can have a serious impact on the book, but I'm going to buy whatever Greg Rucka's name is on regardless of who's drawing it. I think a lot of people feel the same. A good writer can make a book worthwhile even if the art is subpar, but a great artist can only improve a poorly written book so much, you know?
    How many books these days have an above-the-title credit like that? It used to be more of a prestige thing, but has it just become a general marketing trend?

    I don't have as clear a perspective on it, due to previously stated reasons. Maybe it is just my age, but I think neither artists nor writers really got significant above-the-title credit until the late '70s or early '80s, in general. Were there exceptions? Will Eisner, perhaps? Of course, that's coincidentally the same time when I personally started to recognize the artists and writers I enjoyed. After that, I went back to see which artists and writers I had loved in the past without paying attention to credit. Anyway, I digress.

    I don't think that being a comic book artist, in general, has ever been the most fair or lucrative, with the early days of Image being the notable exception. Although the article does go further into depth, I think the headline, at least, is a little off. It's not as much about the diminishing role of artists, because that, for obvious reasons, cannot be diminished; it's about the diminishing treatment of artists, which, if true, is unfortunate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTigerIn View Post
    How many books these days have an above-the-title credit like that? It used to be more of a prestige thing, but has it just become a general marketing trend?
    On actual, monthly books, it's rare not to see at least the last names of the creative team on the cover. Above the title is relatively common nowadays, too. Almost always with writer and artist both. On trades or collections, it's the same, but you do have trades that are released specifically to collect an author's run on the book fairly often. Especially from Marvel. It got especially bad 5 or so years ago when they would attract non-comic writers to books and then release the trades like this:



    DC did that, too. You almost never get a TPB dedicated solely to an artist's run.

    I don't have as clear a perspective on it, due to previously stated reasons. Maybe it is just my age, but I think neither artists nor writers really got significant above-the-title credit until the late '70s or early '80s, in general. Were there exceptions? Will Eisner, perhaps? Of course, that's coincidentally the same time when I personally started to recognize the artists and writers I enjoyed. After that, I went back to see which artists and writers I had loved in the past without paying attention to credit. Anyway, I digress.
    I'm not actually sure when that started, or when I first noticed it. I want to say it was probably around the time Image started up that you started seeing the names above the title. In superhero comics, at least. If you're just talking about names on the cover, I don't know when that started, either, but I know Alan Moore's name was on the cover of most of his Swamp Thing run, along with the artist names.

    I don't think that being a comic book artist, in general, has ever been the most fair or lucrative, with the early days of Image being the notable exception. Although the article does go further into depth, I think the headline, at least, is a little off. It's not as much about the diminishing role of artists, because that, for obvious reasons, cannot be diminished; it's about the diminishing treatment of artists, which, if true, is unfortunate.
    Agreed.
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    Last month, I saw 2011's All-Star Superman on cable. I thought it had problems, but some things in it were incredibly brilliant, enough that I ended up loving it. I didn't realize until the end credits that it was based on a limited series from the mid-aughts by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely. I bought the collected version in order to compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTigerIn View Post
    Last month, I saw 2011's All-Star Superman on cable. I thought it had problems, but some things in it were incredibly brilliant, enough that I ended up loving it. I didn't realize until the end credits that it was based on a limited series from the mid-aughts by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely. I bought the collected version in order to compare.
    And Adgy-san unapologetic ode to Morrison begins in 3...2...1...
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