August 16th, 2013, 04:21 PM #331
August 16th, 2013, 05:29 PM #332
Iron Man 3 had very few pretensions. It knew what it was and reveled in it. Tony Stark is presented as a singularly important character and we all know RDJ is the only one who could play him (until they recast).
The Dark Knight Rises is all pretension. It wants you to think it's the final chapter in a trilogy of heavy art films about a tortured individual who finds a way through the darkness to become a beacon of light that any and all may follow. It's really just an over wrought commercial for toys, Anne Hathaway's butt and big coats with fur collars.
August 16th, 2013, 10:37 PM #333
August 16th, 2013, 10:40 PM #334
I don't hold it against him for doing big budget money makers. I hold it against him for ONLY doing those. And for basically playing himself in almost every movie these days. The man can act but he doesn't want to anymore.
Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay
August 17th, 2013, 12:29 AM #335
August 17th, 2013, 02:36 AM #336
Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay
Re-read my post and you'll see that I mentioned Sherlock as well so he's done fewer than five others. He did one movie in 2011, one movie in 2012, and one movie in 2013. All Ironman/Sherlock movies. Yes, I forgot about that extravaganza called Due Date. Come on. His challenging roles are so few and far between. You can't be blind to it. You think he's not getting a ton of scripts thrown at him on a daily basis?
And if you think I think Blake has done nothing wrong then you really haven't been paying attention. But there you are playing both sides of the fence again. Oh right. I forgot. Nuance.
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August 17th, 2013, 10:02 AM #337
So this isn't really another BAT argument...more of a RDJ thing. Where is the fun in that. Just to weigh in...find me an RDJ 'challenging' flick that made money. He did that, there isn't any percentage in it. So he does the 'give the people what they want' route. Everyone does at some point, look at DeNiro now.
August 17th, 2013, 10:33 AM #338
The Dark Knight Rises continuation thread
I needed a new challenge, JD.
He doesn't have to pick one or the other. Like I said, he's done one film a year for the last three years. He has time. As for giving people what they want, one of the companies I freelance for created the Maximum Movie Mode for Sherlock 2. The guy absolutely did not want to be there and was in and out of there in an hour. After all, he wasn't getting paid for it. Oh yeah, and he had to have his espresso machine there. Compare that to Snyder, Ritchie, and McG who were all accommodating. Twice in Snyder's case (yes, I just gave him credit). I get it. He's a likable guy who has persevered in life, but if you're a good actor like him (at least he used to be), then I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard. And DeNiro is well past his prime so we can't really compare.
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August 17th, 2013, 10:44 AM #339
Oh I don't know if I agree with that DeNiro statement. See Stardust...he plays a part there you wouldn't expect and excels because he seems to be challenged like he used to be. Nowadays he does stuff that almost seems designed to diminish his legacy. Maybe RDJ doesn't have the same fire anymore. Maybe the passion is gone with the addiction. There are a lot more moving parts there than just 'oh he's playing it safe'. And yeah, maybe he just doesn't care anymore. We all have or have had jobs like that. And despite the fame, it is a job. I don't begrudge him. Something about the way he is doing it just doesn't offend. He has been acting for so long now...just saw him playing a tool in Weird Science...dunno, I think you want him to give you something he just is no longer interested in.
Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti
August 17th, 2013, 10:59 AM #340
And don't get me wrong. I'm happy for him and the fact that he's been able to stay clean lately. His career is bigger now than it was before all of that.
Originally Posted by jerseydevil