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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    Every single cop in Gotham heading into the sewers? A nuclear detonation that leaves the aircraft intact to be examined for working autopilot? Escaping a prison in.... who knows where.... only to make it BACK to Gotham with no money, no ID, no pursuers etc. Recovering from an unclear back injury by being punched and malnourishment...

    No.... THIS Batman movie was far far far far far far far far FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR less "real" than the other two Nolan Batflicks.

    It's not even in the same category.

    Maybe. I won't argue that. Batman Begins has it's moments, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
    A nuclear detonation that leaves the aircraft intact to be examined for working autopilot?
    Wasn't that a software update for all of the "Bats" at WE? They weren't examining the blown up one. I don't disagree with you that it's less realistic than the other two.

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    The Dark Knight Rises: the team behind the trilogy's epic finale | Film | The Guardian

    From cinematographer Wally Pfister to Bane's body double, meet the brains and the beefcake who brought the Batman series to such a spectacular end
    Good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adgy-san View Post
    Maybe. I won't argue that. Batman Begins has it's moments, though...
    The scene where Bruce saves Ra's from falling on the mountain with one arm always makes me think of Cliffhanger. If Stallone can't do it to a girl, no way Bale can do that to a 6'4" Neeson.

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    I am so sorry I even brought this back up. It gives far too much credit to what is really as Doc said, a 'twinkie of a movie'.

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    I was enjoying the discussion, though. :(

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    I finally had a chance to read through this thread after seeing this today. Nothing I can really add that wasn't said already but I had 3 main complaints:

    The entire police force in the tunnel was silly
    Hopping into bed with basically no prior buildup
    Pathetic resolution/death of Bane

    While I know it was too much to ask, I really missed having a villain as awesome as Heath Ledger.
    Although I didn't care, it did feel like Caine wasn't really there for the grave site scene so I understand what Naysay was saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lagwagon0 View Post
    Although I didn't care, it did feel like Caine wasn't really there for the grave site scene so I understand what Naysay was saying.
    I could hug you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Not a hater...as such. Like I said, enjoyed the movie when I was watching it. But really? You don't need to know the workings of the mask? That link to the costume designer mentioned 'gas'. This was never even alluded to in the final product. So basically it seemed as if Bane was helped from terrible pain by a mask that by all appearances would cause horrible pain and constriction. His entire speech pattern was affected by it. Yet, you don't need to know. The entire plane gag was predicated on the CIA agent wanting to know more about the mask...yet you never did. Rendering that entire fabulous segment pretty irrelevant. So yeah, sometimes I do think that Nolan loves his ideas so much that he sacrifices story/character integrity for his set pieces. It happened in Inception(which was a much tighter movie) with one too many dream within a dreams. Catwomans outfit was another inconsistency. As I have railed before, everything else about these movies is superhero dissected by graphic realism, yet the girl runs around in skintight leather kicking people with stiletto heels. Live by reality, die by reality. And honestly...judging by the lack of interest in this thread until I hatemongered some more, you guys are underwhelmed and are unable/afraid to admit it was disappointing. Other threads, such as Prometheus and even Avengers...had way longer shelf lives than this one. You guys have already moved on. My dislike of these movies is Nolans obvious distaste for the material he is making his mark with. Batman hardly appearing, and when he does the action sequences(as far as fighting) are perfunctory and clumsy. And mythology just being discarded because he can't make sense of it. Ridiculous. You can't straddle the fence here. I am going to say something that is not going to go over well here. Schumacher's Batman & Robin was more honest and more respectful of the source material. Nipple suits, codpieces and all. And, as bad as that movie was, it was at least fun. Unintentionally maybe but still fun.
    For me it's as simple as this: I enjoyed the hell out of these movies. This was the wrap up one. There isn't really much to discuss for me. I'm not going to change anyone's mind on the series as a whole so why bother trying? This is the third movie of a very "adult" comic book movie trilogy. Let's see how much talk there is after the 3rd avengers flick or the 3rd Prometheus one. People have their thoughts, and that's that. There isn't going to be much discussion on the last film in a series that we've talked about for like seven years. What exactly are you looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagwagon0 View Post
    While I know it was too much to ask, I really missed having a villain as awesome as Heath Ledger.
    I know what you mean but anyone who expected anything close to Ledger/Joker was setting themselves up for disappointment. There is no better comic book villain than the Joker and no comic book performance better than what Ledger gave. There's just no way anything anyone did would match that role. Having said that, I thought Tom Hardy was as good as you could ask for.
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