Thread: The Dark Knight Rises -- spoiler discussion

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Hand to hand combat is far different than the martial arts that Batman has mastered. It's like saying that a well kept Nissan can compete in a race with a Lambourghini. So, a street cop who works out for 40 minutes a day is comparable to a guy with unlimited resources practicing in foreign lands with masters of disciplines. The zip lining, the dropping from out of nowhere, and things like that are just so easy that any in shape dude can do them? No. You are oversimplifying. If you want to say that the random guy could be a streetfighting guy in a costume...ok, see Super, Defendor etc. A far cry from Batman. I want TDKR to play out 30 more minutes when JGL goes out for his first action and breaks his skull wide open because he tries to do what The Batman did. It's apples and oranges.

I'm just trying to be an ***hole here.

Besides, we don't know that JGL didn't get any of that training. I'm sure we'll see that when he dawns (get it?) the mask. :P

oy...tip your waitresses.

But really...even Robin was from a family of acrobats. From now on, everytime I see that stoopid Miller 64 commercial I will picture all of those tools wrapping the batmobile around the first thing they encounter, cause ANYONE can be the Batman. How'd that work out for Matthew Modine?

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

oy...tip your waitresses.

But really...even Robin was from a family of acrobats. From now on, everytime I see that stoopid Miller 64 commercial I will picture all of those tools wrapping the batmobile around the first thing they encounter, cause ANYONE can be the Batman. How'd that work out for Matthew Modine?

Batman doesn't lead the charge into a gunfight down a tiny street swinging his baton either. :P

I'm just saying that Batman has ALWAYS been portrayed as a symbol that the criminal element was afraid of. From the start. Bruce Wayne just embodied him. Hell, there were references every movie with the baddies being afraid of him at night. Batman never got rid of crime in Gotham. The fact that he existed just scared them into doing less of it.

Yeah, but part of the mystique was HOW Batman appeared...out of nowhere, like a ghost. Hows a flatfoot gonna pull that off. SomeGuy just showing up in a cape is more likely to inspire laughs than fear. It's all style.

Welll.... that settles it.

Nolan is an idiot.

The way I saw it in the Nolan Batman flicks was not that anyone could be Batman, it's that anyone and everyone can and should stand up to injustice and crime. I agree that the 'anyone can be Batman' sentiment is dumb.

See...that's some nice fence straddling right there, but Big Brown sums it up well. If Nolan had put it that way I would have signed off on it. But to imply that an almost superhuman feat could be pulled off by any elliptical riding schmo...well monsignor, that dog just don't hunt.

He can be Batman without doing things the same way, though, can't he? Maybe JGL's Batman will use a gun and shoot people like Punisher.

nope. No code...no Batman...ask Azrael.