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    Hey, I like I, Claudius! The nerve of some people!

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    THE HOBBIT Director Peter Jackson Responds to Critics of 48fps

    When director Peter Jackson announced that he would be filming The Hobbit in 48fps (double the frame rate of the industry standard 24fps), it sounded like a brilliant crystal-clear resolution, a feeling of realism and elimination of motion blur. However, the response to some test footage projected at 48fps at CinemaCon was not as glowing as one would have expected. Steve was on hand to view the footage and described it by saying:


    “The 48fps is so jarring that I’m not sure casual moviegoers will enjoy it.”

    I recommend checking out Steve’s video blog in which he discusses his reaction to viewing The Hobbit footage in 48fps. Jackson spoke briefly in response to the criticism. Hit the jump to see what he has to say.

    EW reports that word of the lukewarm reaction to Jackson’s footage for The Hobbit elicited a bit of frustration from the director. Much like Steve described as a transition from silent movies to those with sound or from black and white to color, projection at 24fps to 48fps may be the way of cinematic future…we just happen to be experiencing some growing pains. As Jackson put it:


    “Nobody is going to stop. This technology is going to keep evolving.”

    During the presentation, Jackson did notice that many people seemed to get over their initial anxiety:


    “I just wonder if it they were getting into the dialogue, the characters and the story. That’s what happens in the movie. You settle into it.”

    I haven’t seen the 48fps myself, but it seems reminiscent of the transition to HDTV, where movements were just a bit off, news anchors’ make-up was glaringly obvious and every facial imperfection was viewable in the highest resolution. We got over it. Hopefully, theater goers will have the option of watching it in 24fps vs 48fps when it opens December 14th, but in time, I’d wager that 48fps is here to stay.
    OOOh, that's a misstep. Blaming the unrefined tastes of the masses for 'not getting it', shame on you Mr. Jackson.

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    It's not that he's saying they're dumb. He's saying it's new to the eye and so it 's kind of jarring.

    I remember the first time I walked into Best Buy or Costco and saw giant HD TVs with 1080p resolution and it looked both real and fake at the same time. Now I see regular def and it looks like something from the 50's. It takes some time to get used to it.

    And it's not the first time I've heard this. When I went from my old CRT to my new LED, I did research on the fps and one of the drawbacks to getting a cheaper 60 fps refresh rate was motion blur and the jumpiness in quick-moving shots and things like sports shot digitally. And one of the drawbacks of the 120 fps refresh rate was that film ended up looking fake. The extra frame provides an extra clarity and reviews said that you could more easily notice the difference between real and fake, especially with sets. When I heard The Hobbit was going to be done at 48 fps, that immediately came to mind and the early word seems to have confirmed that.

    Part of me wishes that a production like this might have foregone the new technology until other films had gone this route to pave the way and give this production a chance to make any early corrections. You know, when it comes to the make up and set design - learn how correct for the new frame rate like they had to "over-red" to adjust for the color palette in the final edit - but then you trust Jackson and his team to have seen this and corrected for it during filming, so I'm guessing it'll be weird for about 15 minutes and then be mostly fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    so I'm guessing it'll be weird for about 15 minutes and then be mostly fine.
    That's my guess, as well. Once you are absorbed in the story, the medium should disappear into the background. And it's not like we were going to be watching movies in 24FPS until the end of time, anyway. It's been that way for a hundred years, time to move on to better things.

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    I get your well presented argument Darby, but this was shown to Cinemacon, which I would belive is a fairly savvy audience. Not like the typical folks that don't know their 780p from a hole in the wall. And they were checking out. Since Jackson/Cameron have been actively shopping this tech I would imagine it's not the first time most of this audience was exposed to it. I just found it kind of 'let them eat cake' what Jackson said. Maybe this tech, like you present in your argument isn't fully developed or 'heaven forbid' Mr. Jackson is playing with his new toy before he really is qualified to. I'll admit, I may be reading too much into his comments, but them theres my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    and by the way, if he isn't sure 'casual moviegoers will enjoy it', wtf is he thinking putting it on one of the bigger mass appeal movies of the past couple a years?
    "Steve" isn't sure casual moviegoers will enjoy it, not PJ.

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    withdrawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Not like the typical folks that don't know their 780p from a hole in the wall.
    I'm afraid I don't know 780p from a hole in the wall, either. :D

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    What's a hole in the wall?

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