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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    It's just tiresome. All of the old-school Con goers...'oh, it isn't what it was,' 'it's gone so hollywood', etc. Deal with it. It grew. Maybe it has outgrown the facilities. What do you expect. It's akin to the old man on the porch...'In my day...'. Not your cup of tea, too crowded, too high profile...fine. But this categorical dismissal is just a well worn point of view. And it's unecessary to restate.

    did you ever consider that it's become tiresome because it's true?

    alls i said was that i was glad i personally don't go anymore because i didn't like how it had evolved... particularly that it has now gone on to incorporate television programs without even the slightest bit of tangential connection to the spirit of the COMIC CON other than an enormous gaggle of people "geeking out" over it.

    maybe they should change the name to FANATIC CON, and just start throwing panels for people obsessed with food and design network s***... Project Runway has a ridiculously large and devoted following, and people throw finale watch parties that'd rival the Buffy freaks.

    you took that as some sort of elitist snobbery by pulling from OTHER opinions you've had to endure because i said nothing and badmouthed no one. nor did i talk head about anyone else going... again, ALL I SAID was "i'm so glad i don't go anymore."

    personally, if i want to geek out a little, i browse this specific forum... you and adgy provide enough for me to look into and explore.


    but be assured, my friend, i WILL remember this when you make a wanton comment about your age or interest level and new music!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gescom View Post
    but be assured, my friend, i WILL remember this when you make a wanton comment about your age or interest level and new music!!!
    Nucular.

    PS: Love ya, JD.
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    Witness The Craziness For Yourself: Video Of The Francis Ford Coppola Panel From Comic-Con Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors

    Francis Ford Coppola’s panel at Comic-Con this year was flat-out baffling. Ambitious, perhaps, but maddeningly ill-conceived.

    These videos of the panel are edited in such a way that no footage is presented. As a result, you won’t get to hear Francis and Val singing, or several other completely indescribable things. Such a shame. But you will get to hear Coppola explain his wacky scheme in his own words.

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    A few highlights from my Friday there....

    Suicide Girls- Yeah, I know, "What are they doing there?!?" But I personally like them being there and to see them back was cool. So I stopped by, chatted a bit, bought a shirt for Mrs KP and took a pic with the girls. The bonus was Radeo Suicide (who has been an internet crush of mine for a while) was there and she was as cool as I imagined.


    Alex Ross- Ross is legend for a reason: he is freakin' awesome. But when ever you bring him up with comic fans you usually hear "Alex Ross is brilliant but....." followed by how he is an a-hole/d-bag/arrogant/aloof ect ect. I can sort of see where someone might think that. Ross' both is huge, it only has a couple of books on the table, all stuff in book has a "K" after a number. All his stuff is priced in the thousands of dollars. He wears a blazer or sports coat and the look on his face gives you the impression he feels he is above all the stuff going around him. I think people see that, are intimidated by the fact his stuff is priced so high and they actually never stop to talk to him. But I have to say every time I have stopped at his booth he has always come over and said hi, then chatted for bit, this year as I have mentioned about the Kings. So Ross is cool in my book.

    Stephan Martiniere- Martiniere is a French award winning artist who mainly does Sci-fi work. If you have ever browsed SF books in a book store you have probably seen his work. I got to talk with him a bit and bought a favorite litho of mine and he signed it. He is nice guy and pretty interesting.
    The Work of Stephan Martiniere | Just another WordPress site

    Marc Wolfe- I have been a fan of Wolfe for a few years now and stopped by his table in the Artists Alley. Bought a badass Capt. America signed litho and he was nice as ever.
    http://www.marcwolfeart.com/

    Billy Tucci- Another one of my favs. Billy is great artist and just a downright cool guy. So I got hang with him for bit, continued the tradition of sneaking in beers and tipped a few at his booth. I was then immortalized in a sketch when he drew a pic of him and I drinking beer on the cover of a sketchbook.
    Billy Tucci

    Morgan Spurlock- He walked right past me and I asked to take a pic with him. He did and could not have been a nicer guy. I have always like the stuff he does so I was geeked to be able to meet him.

    Lots of cool people about, lots of folks in costumes, some were great, some not so much. Some really hot chicks about, a number of them scantily clad which is always good. The best costume I saw was a big guy dressed as a centaur, and he nailed it. I don't who he was trying to be but he had on leather armor for his torso, a helmet and spear, and horse legs. He also had a horse body attached and the back rigged to move in time with his front legs. The sound of hooves were timed every time he took step. He put a lot of work into it and it looked pretty good.

    All in all I had a blast but I see why a lot of people have problems with it. It has gotten out of hand. I did not go to any panels because the one I wanted to go to had massive line or the halls were full hours before they took place and since they don't clear them after every panel they are perpetually full. It is crowded and there a bunch of stuff there that seems out of place. I think it was JD who said that their effort to "make it fair for everyone" has actually just ****ed it up for everyone. My suggestion? Clear the damn halls after every event. Don't make it so damn hard to buy passes for the next year.

    But like I said, I still had fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings Provisional View Post
    My suggestion? Clear the damn halls after every event. Don't make it so damn hard to buy passes for the next year.

    But like I said, I still had fun.
    Panels and Halls: I'd love to see them use a registration system. Once you have your pass purchased, a couple of weeks before the event the schedule is released. A couple of weeks after that, you register for what you'd like to see. No overlapping of events. One pass, one registration. Once the event is full, the event is full. Emails are sent out with barcodes for those events. They scan them on entry to said hall and you nab a seat. Feel free to line up, but if you don't have a barcode, you don't get in. Simple. This avoids people showing up at Hall H for a panel that doesn't start for six hours just so they can be there for that.

    Tickets: If you have a four day pass, you get right of first refusal to purchase your pass again for next year. Individual day tickets do not get this offer. Also, offer two day passes. Thurs-Fri and Sat-Sun. Reduce the amount of 4-day passes for next year. Also, for all that is holy, start using a Ticketmaster service to handle the demand please. This years system was a disaster.

    Just mild suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gescom View Post
    did you ever consider that it's become tiresome because it's true?

    alls i said was that i was glad i personally don't go anymore because i didn't like how it had evolved... particularly that it has now gone on to incorporate television programs without even the slightest bit of tangential connection to the spirit of the COMIC CON other than an enormous gaggle of people "geeking out" over it.

    maybe they should change the name to FANATIC CON, and just start throwing panels for people obsessed with food and design network s***... Project Runway has a ridiculously large and devoted following, and people throw finale watch parties that'd rival the Buffy freaks.

    you took that as some sort of elitist snobbery by pulling from OTHER opinions you've had to endure because i said nothing and badmouthed no one. nor did i talk head about anyone else going... again, ALL I SAID was "i'm so glad i don't go anymore."

    personally, if i want to geek out a little, i browse this specific forum... you and adgy provide enough for me to look into and explore.


    but be assured, my friend, i WILL remember this when you make a wanton comment about your age or interest level and new music!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Goallum View Post
    Nucular.

    PS: Love ya, JD.
    Wasn't looking to start a war(apologies if it seemed that way Ges)...just seems so standard for the 'old guard' to gripe about what ComiCon has become. That opinion has been established 'to death'. It's been registered to overkill so much so that the few times an oldtimer(for example Matt Groening) started to go down that route you could hear the audible stop before they did the gripe about the old days routine. Just let it go already.
    As far as the suggestions to improve Comicon, the pass system is attainable as far as right of first refusal...but four dayers have that now sort of. Four chances to get there early, line up and hope for the best. It sucks, but I did it...it worked out, and actually it kind of was one of those experiences that the con is sort of about. Waiting in line and having converstaions with your linemates and people you may never have met under any other circumstances. Any other changes are pipe dreams. Everytime those in control try to change something it only gets worse. They simply do not have the infrastructure. The clearing of rooms is also unattainable. The panels are on a strict schedule that gets off late usually at the start of the day. Clearing/restocking the room would take time they do not have. Add to that folks hiding in bathrooms/concession lines...no can do. It's like anything else, if you want something you have to put in the work. The first few years it was disappointing...as I have gone on though it is what it is. What we see we see what we miss, it wasn't to be. As always i had a terrific time. for every minor setback there was a moment of awesomeness. Wouldn't miss it for the world. And so far I haven't had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings Provisional View Post
    A few highlights from my Friday there....

    Suicide Girls- Yeah, I know, What are they doing there?!?" But I personally like them being there and to see them back was cool. So I stopped by, chatted a bit, bought a shirt for Mrs KP and took a pic with the girls. The bonus was Radeo Suicide (who has been an internet cruch of mine for a while) was there and she was as cool as I imagined.


    Alex Ross- Ross is legend for a reason: he is freakin' awesome. But when ever you bring him up with comic fans you usually hear "Alex Ross is brilliant but....." followed by how he is an a-hole/d-bag/arrogant/aloof ect ect. I can sort of see where someone noight think that. Ross' both is huge, it only has a couple of books on the table, all stuff in book has a "K" after a number. All his stuff is priced in the thousands of dollars. He wears a blazer or sports coat and the look on his face gives you the impression he feels he is above all the stuff going around him. I think people see that, are intimidated by the fact his stuff is priced so high and they actually never stop to talk to him. But I have to say every time I have stopped at his booth he has always come over and said hi, then chatted for bit, this year as I have mentioned about the Kings. So Ross is cool in my book.

    Stephan Martiniere- Martiniere is a French award winning artist who mainly does Sci-fi work. If you have ever browsed SF books in a book store you have probably seen his work. I got to talk with him a bit and bought a favorite litho of mine and he signed it. He is nice guy and pretty interesting.
    The Work of Stephan Martiniere | Just another WordPress site

    Marc Wolfe- I have been a fan of Wolfe for a few years now and stopped by his table in the Artists Alley. Bought a badass Capt. America signed litho and he was nice as ever.
    Marc Wolfe Art

    Billy Tucci- Another one of my favs. Billy is great artist and just a downright cool guy. So I got hang with him for bit, continued the tradition of sneaking in beers and tipped a few at his booth. I was then immortalized in a sketch when he drew a pic of him and I drinking beer on the cover of a skecthbook.
    Billy Tucci

    Morgan Spurlock- He walked right past me and I asked to take a pic with him. He did and could not have been a nicer guy. I have always like the stuff he does so I was geeked to be able to meet him.

    Lots of cool people about, lots of folks in costumes, some were great, some not so much. Some really hot chicks about, a number of them scantily clad which is always good. The best costume I saw was a big guy dressed as a centuar, and he nailed it. I don't who he was trying to be but he had on leather armor for his torso, a helmet and spear, and horse legs. He also had a horse body attached and the back rigged to move in time with his front legs. The sound of hooves were timed every time he took step. He put a lot of work into it and it looked pretty good.

    All in all I had a blast but I see why a lot of people have problems with it. It has gotten out of hand. I did not go to any panels because the one I wanted to go to had massive line or the halls were full hours before they took place and since they don't clear them after every panel they are perpetually full. It is crowded and there a bunch of stuff there that seems out of place. I think it was JD who said that their effort to "make it fair for everyone" has actually just ****ed it up for everyone. My suggestion? Clear the damn halls after every event. Don't make it so damn hard to buy passes for the next year.

    But like I said, I still had fun.
    See. KP had the almost complete polar opposite of my Consperience. Comics...artists...writers, I'm jealous. Just think the giant global four color insanity of the whole 4 days is soooooooooo Christmas like. I just do not understand the 'grumpus' mentality. There are other small conventions. Including the upcoming Wizardcon downtown. Are you planning on attending Gescom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Wasn't looking to start a war...just seems so standard for the 'old guard' to gripe about what ComiCon has become. That opinion has been established 'to death'. It's been registered to overkill so much so that the few times an oldtimer(for example Matt Groening) started to go down that route you could hear the audible stop before they did the gripe about the old days routine. Just let it go already.
    As far as the suggestions to improve Comicon, the pass system is attainable as far as right of first refusal...but four dayers have that now sort of. Four chances to get there early, line up and hope for the best. It sucks, but I did it...it worked out, and actually it kind of was one of those experiences that the con is sort of about. Waiting in line and having converstaions with your linemates and people you may never have met under any other circumstances. Any other changes are pipe dreams. Everytime those in control try to change something it only gets worse. They simply do not have the infrastructure. The clearing of rooms is also unattainable. The panels are on a strict schedule that gets off late usually at the start of the day. Clearing/restocking the room would take time they do not have. Add to that folks hiding in bathrooms/concession lines...no can do. It's like anything else, if you want something you have to put in the work. The first few years it was disappointing...as I have gone on though it is what it is. What we see we see what we miss, it wasn't to be. As always i had a terrific time. for every minor setback there was a moment of awesomeness. Wouldn't miss it for the world. And so far I haven't had to.
    Just disagree with those things a little bit.

    One, I just don't think that part of the experience should be lining up and hoping you get a ticket for next year four times for 8-15 hours depending on how committed you are. Quite frankly, if you have to wait in line at 5am to get a ticket, something is wrong from the get go. It should be a lot more organized, and it can be. Wholeheartedly agree about their infrastructure though. That needs to be addressed.

    Two, if you needed a pass to get in, the funneling of people makes it much easier to accomplish. There aren't 6k people going in and out of each panel currently, but there's several hundred. It could be done. It's done at other conventions and I have no doubt it could be accomplished there. I just know there's a better way than it is currently. You're right in saying you're not going to see everything you want to see. However, you should be able to see more than you do.

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