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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS>>>WRONG THREAD.

    Hey. It's sort of a 'who cares' in the books, but Joff's upcoming wedding 'present'...who did it? They sure are muddying the waters. I would ALMOST bet on Cersei at this point. Removes the Tyrell threat and thus absolves her of her marriage. The fact that she can frame her brother is icing on the cake...don't forget, his marrying Sansa puts him in a position of power as far as the North.
    Dudes. Pay attention when you read, man!

    **Spoilers**



    Littlefinger has Joffrey killed in order to create even more havoc and just enough of a commotion to "free" Sansa. He conspired with his lover, Lyssa Arryn, who in turn murdered her husband as a way to get this whole ball of wax started. They talk about it right before he pushes her out of the Moon Door, thereby claiming status as Protector of the Vale as father-in-law to the weird kid.

    And with Tyrion killed for his perceived crime, that leaves Littlefinger free to marry Sansa and claim Lordship of the North as well. But then Tyrion gets away.





    Outside of the books, the leading theory is that Coldhands is Benjen, but... apparently prequel materials also point to some other possibilities.

    The real question I think holds the key to everything is: Who are Jon Snow and possibly Tyrion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecktore View Post
    So, what did you guys think of the Theon/Reek scenes? They were pretty brutal, but I'm glad they were included because we got to see how the transformation from Theon to Reek actually happened. And, I gotta say, I was somewhat cheering when his sister (I forget her name) stood up against Mr. Greyjoy and set sail to find her brother.

    However, now that I think about it, in the books, wasn't there a huge power struggle on the Iron Islands going on BEFORE she arrives to rescue him?
    Balon died earlier in the books so yeah there was the whole power struggle thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    Dudes. Pay attention when you read, man!

    **Spoilers**



    Littlefinger has Joffrey killed in order to create even more havoc and just enough of a commotion to "free" Sansa. He conspired with his lover, Lyssa Arryn, who in turn murdered her husband as a way to get this whole ball of wax started. They talk about it right before he pushes her out of the Moon Door, thereby claiming status as Protector of the Vale as father-in-law to the weird kid.

    And with Tyrion killed for his perceived crime, that leaves Littlefinger free to marry Sansa and claim Lordship of the North as well. But then Tyrion gets away.





    Outside of the books, the leading theory is that Coldhands is Benjen, but... apparently prequel materials also point to some other possibilities.

    The real question I think holds the key to everything is: Who are Jon Snow and possibly Tyrion?
    Yep, forgot some of the details of that conversation between LittleFinger and Lyssa.

    I pointed out earlier in this thread that Tyrion had quite an affection for dragons. And we pretty much know that Tywin has claimed Tyrion as his son even though he isn't. Also, we only know Jon's mother's first name...So I'm pretty certain about Tyrion. Jon, I can only assume and go based on what others have told me. I must have missed something about him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecktore View Post
    Yep, forgot some of the details of that conversation between LittleFinger and Lyssa.

    I pointed out earlier in this thread that Tyrion had quite an affection for dragons. And we pretty much know that Tywin has claimed Tyrion as his son even though he isn't. Also, we only know Jon's mother's first name...So I'm pretty certain about Tyrion. Jon, I can only assume and go based on what others have told me. I must have missed something about him
    There is a good chance that Eddard wasnt his father. One of the reasons he never wanted to discuss the situation with Jon or anyone else.
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    Tyrion's mother wasn't a Targaryn. There is some speculation about his father, though. Rumor was that the Mad King had a thing for Tywin's wife.

    Jon Snow is possibly still a bastard Stark. Only the prevailing theory is that the Stark is Ned's sister and the father is Rhaegar Targaryen. She made Ned promise to keep it a secret in order to keep Jon safe from newly-crowned King Robert.
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    Ok, so since we are going all speculation heavy what is the prevailing theory Re: Jon being incovenienced by being mostly dead right now?

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    Damn it. Are you guys getting this from the books? If so, I may have to go through them a third time.

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    No, it's merely speculation by fans, but it does make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Ok, so since we are going all speculation heavy what is the prevailing theory Re: Jon being incovenienced by being mostly dead right now?
    I'm thinking the Red Woman will bring him back to life ala Thoros of Myr.

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    So essentially, the Three Headed Dragon will be Daenerys, Jon, and Tyrion.

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