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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecktore View Post
    The back from the dead thing is all I had. Could be a trick, but the way that chapter ended...I don't know. Jon can't be dead....he can't be.
    Or can he????
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    Help me out guys, is this thread only for the storyline itself?

    If it's for everything book-related...man, I really need to vent and bitch about A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. No offense, but I think GRR Martin is really starting to lose the plot about the series.


    I absolutely LOVED the first three books and often read until late in the night just to see what happens next. But the last two books? Total disappointment to me.

    It took me about three months to read through AFfC. Sure, it has some good parts but most of the times it's just...nothing happens. Endless descriptions of food, thousands of new but totally irrelevant characters (plus their entire family tree's bio's) and it seems like every character is either sitting someplace, thinking about what to do next or traveling someplace, thinking about what to do next. Reading through that behemoth of a book was just...tiring, it almost felt like a chore. I read the Wikipedia page afterwards and it seems like they summed up everything that happenend in half an hour's worth of text. Frustrating.

    After a hiatus of a few months, I recently gave A Dance with Dragons a shot, this time as an audiobook (48 hours long, by the way). I'm now at hour five...and it's the same thing again! Food, traveling, more food, endless descriptions, even more food, and nothing is happening. Even the Tyrion chapters have lost the special something. I peaked at some reviews on Amazon, but they more or less tell me that this will continue for the rest of the book. I'm one food description away from opening Wikipedia and getting the summary again.


    I don't know...GRR Martin is a great writer, but does nobody edit these things anymore, now that he has success? Couldn't they just cut the two books together? I mean, each book has more pages than the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. Or did the publisher want maximum cash? And when is the series going to end if Martin continues at this pace? I mean, there's not even a hint at a possible ending in sight (at least for me).


    Long story short, Martin has almost lost me as a reader right now, as sad as it is.

    Sorry for the rant, but does anybody feel the same? I'd also love to hear some thoughts from you folks that liked the books...maybe I just have bad taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmarsh28 View Post
    Help me out guys, is this thread only for the storyline itself?

    If it's for everything book-related...man, I really need to vent and bitch about A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. No offense, but I think GRR Martin is really starting to lose the plot about the series.


    I absolutely LOVED the first three books and often read until late in the night just to see what happens next. But the last two books? Total disappointment to me.

    It took me about three months to read through AFfC. Sure, it has some good parts but most of the times it's just...nothing happens. Endless descriptions of food, thousands of new but totally irrelevant characters (plus their entire family tree's bio's) and it seems like every character is either sitting someplace, thinking about what to do next or traveling someplace, thinking about what to do next. Reading through that behemoth of a book was just...tiring, it almost felt like a chore. I read the Wikipedia page afterwards and it seems like they summed up everything that happenend in half an hour's worth of text. Frustrating.

    After a hiatus of a few months, I recently gave A Dance with Dragons a shot, this time as an audiobook (48 hours long, by the way). I'm now at hour five...and it's the same thing again! Food, traveling, more food, endless descriptions, even more food, and nothing is happening. Even the Tyrion chapters have lost the special something. I peaked at some reviews on Amazon, but they more or less tell me that this will continue for the rest of the book. I'm one food description away from opening Wikipedia and getting the summary again.


    I don't know...GRR Martin is a great writer, but does nobody edit these things anymore, now that he has success? Couldn't they just cut the two books together? I mean, each book has more pages than the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. Or did the publisher want maximum cash? And when is the series going to end if Martin continues at this pace? I mean, there's not even a hint at a possible ending in sight (at least for me).


    Long story short, Martin has almost lost me as a reader right now, as sad as it is.

    Sorry for the rant, but does anybody feel the same? I'd also love to hear some thoughts from you folks that liked the books...maybe I just have bad taste.
    Kind of valid really. But we don't know the long game. I think as the story has grown the books have become a bit bloated. But that's ok. Rather have excess than not enough. I know that I am not going to judge the series until it's complete. But there are things that frustrate.
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    I rather enjoyed A Dance with Dragons. Second best of the series IMO. A Feast For Crows, I agree with in terms of it feeling like a chore. I have the audio for the whole series, and it still felt that way. Do finish up A Dance With Dragons, you won't be disappointed.
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    Books 4-5 were the middle section. One extra fat book split up in order to get characters from the preamble (1-3) to the finale (6-7). They fill in story lines, give you insight an motivations rather than set piece after set piece. You get to see other plots coming together from long ago building into the story now.

    And in the end, aaaaaallllll of these pieces are going to come crashing together into one massive confrontation that makes the War of the Five Kings look like some paltry skirmishes between hedge knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Or can he????
    I REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE he Isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecktore View Post
    I REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE he Isn't.
    Like I said earlier...I don't believe it for a minute...

    jom

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    Ha...have you guys learned nothing from Martin? It's like you can't conceive that he would actually have a character die a meaningless and abrupt death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Ha...have you guys learned nothing from Martin? It's like you can't conceive that he would actually have a character die a meaningless and abrupt death.
    So that means he'll kill of JS as well? It's not that simple. I doubt it considering the...um...huge amount of possible story behind the character. But who knows...we'll see.

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    I doubt it too. But I have learned to expect the unexpected.

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