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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy100 View Post
    C'mon, if you can plug a cable into a hard drive you can build a computer. It's not that hard.

    As for driver issues, this isn't Windows 98.
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    Why go through all of the effort if..

    A. The user is not technically savvy.
    B. The user is only going to play Farmville or extreme Texas Holdem or games like that

    You aren't going to save any money building your own system. Depending on the game/application, you will probably not have any real world gain by building your own system, and you have a higher likely.

    Most users do not and should not need to build their own system unless its a hobby and you are prepared to deal with any tweaking you will need to do down the road. Just because it can be done, doesn't make it the best option for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy100 View Post
    they were AWESOME. my first 4 computers were all fry's combos until i realized that ECS motherboards were ****.
    They sometimes would bundle with decent mobos, otherwise their combos were often as cheap as the CPU alone elsewhere, so I'd just ebay the board to lower my cpu cost. Miss those days...

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    My Dell computer was $600 at Amazon and it shreds.

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    Every computer that I have owned (Except the most recent) I have put together using components. I got tired of using Fry's because nearly 1/4 of the stuff I would buy there would not work. The only things I buy at Fry's anymore are HDD's, Optical Drives, Computer Chassis or HDD Chassis.

    The last computer I had customized at Cyber Power PC - CyberPower PC. - Custom Built Gaming PC and Gaming Laptops

    You can start with a base model as low as around $500 and customize it to include just about any component you want to. The last one I did cost me around $2500, only because I do photo and video editing and 3D rendering. I customized it two years ago but it will still outperform most off the shelf units out today.

    Putting together a PC is not that difficult as long as you have the time to spend on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping Death View Post
    Why go through all of the effort if..

    A. The user is not technically savvy.
    B. The user is only going to play Farmville or extreme Texas Holdem or games like that

    You aren't going to save any money building your own system. Depending on the game/application, you will probably not have any real world gain by building your own system, and you have a higher likely.

    Most users do not and should not need to build their own system unless its a hobby and you are prepared to deal with any tweaking you will need to do down the road. Just because it can be done, doesn't make it the best option for everyone.
    Bolded area 1: Why learn how to drive stick? use a SLR camera?, grill on a BBQ?

    Bolded area 2: Thats true, but if he want to learn (as evidenced by this thread), why discourage him? second to worse case its a (relatively) inexpensive lesson in why some thing are left to others

    worst case: he builds a computer, becomes knowledgable about hardware and software and now has to do tech support for every goddam extended member of his family (or is that just me? )

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    Why would you give someone advice on something without knowing what they are going to use it for? Thats like telling someone to go buy a F-350 when they need a commuter car. All that we know is that the user wants a computer to play games on. Half of the folks I know that "play games" usually play Flash based games. Building your own gaming PC for Farmville is overkill.

    If the user is trying to learn about PCs, I wouldn't discourage them at all. I also wouldnt tell them to go out and spend $1000-1500 on parts to build your own gaming PC. Go spend $500 and learn the ins and outs first, then go spend the big bucks over time building your own PC. They can learn just as much by installing an after market video card and doing a memory upgrade on a HP workstation as you would building your own PC. Take baby steps to see if its something you are interested in. Most people I know just want a computer that will work when they turn it on and run the programs/games they want. All I am saying is that this becomes more difficult on a homebrew PC than compared to a vendor like HP or Dell.

    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy100 View Post
    Bolded area 1: Why learn how to drive stick? use a SLR camera?, grill on a BBQ?

    Bolded area 2: Thats true, but if he want to learn (as evidenced by this thread), why discourage him? second to worse case its a (relatively) inexpensive lesson in why some thing are left to others

    worst case: he builds a computer, becomes knowledgable about hardware and software and now has to do tech support for every goddam extended member of his family (or is that just me? )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping Death View Post
    Why go through all of the effort if..

    A. The user is not technically savvy.
    B. The user is only going to play Farmville or extreme Texas Holdem or games like that

    You aren't going to save any money building your own system. Depending on the game/application, you will probably not have any real world gain by building your own system, and you have a higher likely.

    Most users do not and should not need to build their own system unless its a hobby and you are prepared to deal with any tweaking you will need to do down the road. Just because it can be done, doesn't make it the best option for everyone.
    I mean, seriously?

    Building my mid to low/high end PC's saved me over 1k+ vs buying it prebuilt. Not only that, I can replace parts at will if they break. You can't do that otherwise.

    1.5 years ago I built an i7 920 rig that back then would have cost 2500 from Dell plus tax/ship. I built my mom an i5 computer for 600 bucks for Christmas that would have cost 1700 from Dell. I saved a ton of cash by building it myself and i haven't touched or tweaked either of them since the day I fired it up.

    I get that you're anti-builder, but you make it sound like its dangerous and extremely complex. It's not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabeechman View Post
    I mean, seriously?

    Building my mid to low/high end PC's saved me over 1k+ vs buying it prebuilt. Not only that, I can replace parts at will if they break. You can't do that otherwise.

    1.5 years ago I built an i7 920 rig that back then would have cost 2500 from Dell plus tax/ship. I built my mom an i5 computer for 600 bucks for Christmas that would have cost 1700 from Dell. I saved a ton of cash by building it myself and i haven't touched or tweaked either of them since the day I fired it up.

    I get that you're anti-builder, but you make it sound like its dangerous and extremely complex. It's not...
    I don't know how you were pricing out that hardware but I can get a i7 workstation from HP for $600. And it comes with a year warranty and Windows 7. Ive been buying them for clients for the last 6 months. PCs are dirt cheap right now.

    I am definitely not anti-builder as you put it. Ive probably built close to 1000 computers. Workstations, gaming PCs, engineering/graphic workstations and servers. I know what kinds of problems you get with building a custom PC. If you are just looking for a computer to play games on, don't build your own. If you are looking for a computer to play games on AND learn how they work, then build your own PC. Its not complex, its time consuming. You will spend more time tinkering with your homebrew PC then you would pulling your HP out of the box and firing it up. not to mention that if there is a problem, its one call to HP and a new PC is on the way. If you have to diag a hardware issue on your homebrew PC, you may be spending hours and hours of time just so you can surf the web or get your school work done. There is no paranoia or fear involved, its industry experience and an understanding of what most PC users are looking for.
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    Just took a look over at Dell and the cheapest i7 desktop they have with similar specs to my 1.5 year old i7 is still 1000 with a weaker gpu, slower ram, and less opticals (plus I like my 920 more than the 930).

    Glad you aren't anti-build, but it's much less complicated/scary than you make it out.

    I encourage people to build their own PC's, saves a ton of money, you learn something, and you have the added value of futureproofing your rig.

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    Just realized you said HP instead of Dell...

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