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    Funny, because I've been shooting RAW only, and am actually considering shooting RAW +jpeg. I'm still tooling around with a comfortable work flow, and can see the benefit of my first selection edit being with jpegs. My next volume shoot will be my first experiment with it, so I may find I'm wasting my time. But the thought of being able to quickly junk test shots and soft focus shots without waiting for them to render in Lightroom makes it worth a try.

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    I always go straight to the chip and do my first deleting before even importing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rinkrat View Post
    I always go straight to the chip and do my first deleting before even importing them.
    Same.

    I usually have some downtime between capture and import where I can hunch over the camera and poke at the images. I decide what the ****can and what to keep and import. After the import, I decide what's worthy of post-processing and flag them. The rest stay in my image folder. Never know when you'll need something that's in one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyFan View Post
    I think what you are describing is what is called the crop or lens multiplier. If the sensor of the camera is smaller than 24mm x 36mm (which the vast majority are in the dSLR world), the lens will feel longer than it is. Most Nikons have a 1.5x multiplier, so a 100mm lens will look like a 150mm, while most Canons are 1.6x, so a 100mm will look like a 160mm.

    While the body ergonomics are important, being happy with the glass that is available for that mount should also be a major deciding factor. Stereotyping here, but Nikon is fantastic on the wide end. Canon has been catching up a bit with the EF-s 10-22 and the EF 14 f/2.8 L mkII, but still in favor of Nikon. If you like shooting long, Canon has a few more options than Nikon, but Nikon has been catching up on the long end.

    Oh, and both the OM-1 (my dad's camera, which I shot on all the time) and the OM-2 (stolen by an ex-girlfriend) where both amazing cameras. I loved those things.

    My dad's OM-2 is in MINT condition. Like... not a scratch. He had it in a leather body for years, and he took immaculate care of his lenses and stuff. I'll take some pics and post them. He doesn't use it anymore... not cost effective.... but the camera still looks brand new, if you can believe it. My uncles OM-1's battery exploded in it, so while he cleaned it out, it has a little bit more wear and tear on it.

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    I always go straight to the chip and do my first deleting before even importing them.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyBoeingJets View Post
    Same.
    Wow, you guys live on the edge! I have come to the realization that I don't trust myself dumping photos off the camera unless it is seriously and obviously flawed (like lens cap on flawed). Usually the ones that I suspect are bad actually end up being so, but every once in a while, I decide that one that I thought where poor when I was taking or reviewing in the camera actually has some merit to it and with a little help, I can pull it out.

    I have also been a little interested in trying the RAW +JPG to render faster in Lightroom, has anyone done it? It would be nice if it stacked the two (with the JPG at the top of the stack), but I haven't had a chance to play with it.

    Thinking about going RAW +JPG makes the Samy's sale pretty attractive, but I can't seem to find the newest firmware for my camera that will allow it to recognize a card over 8Gb. Perhaps I spend that cash on some grip equipment instead

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    Your camera won't recognize cards over 8Gb?

    Damn Canons suck!
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    It's an OLD camera

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    Let me ask a basic question - why do you want a DSLR? They do not automagically produce better photos than a regular "point and click." A lot of people buy DSLR's because they are marketed heavily and because their friends/neighbors have them, despite the fact that it is the completely wrong camera for them. DSLR's are capable of taking better pictures than just "point and click" cameras, but they won't do it by themselves - the photographer must be capable of taking good pictures as well. Most people use DSLR's to take bad pictures which may have been better pictures if the camera was NOT a DSLR.

    A DSLR is not the camera for you if:

    1. You don't really intend to learn photography - you know, how light works, f-stops, apertures, etc. The whole point of the (D)SLR is to give the photographer more control over the photography process, and if you aren't capable of using that control, there is no point in having a DSLR. If you are just taking pictures on the "auto" setting, the advantages of the DSLR are lost and only the disadvantages, such as the larger size and weight, remain.

    2. You don't intend to become at least somewhat proficient at Photoshop or similar software. Generally, DSLR photos look worse without post processing than a consumer-camera photo because they are not as sharp or as vivid. A consumer camera does quite a bit of processing in camera. The DSLR end-user is expected to do much of the post processing, such as sharpness and color adjustments, etc. him/herself.

    3. You don't intend to spend good money on lenses. The "kit" lens that comes with the overwhelming majority of DSLR's, especially low-end DSLR's, are utter crap. When buying a DSLR you're buying a camera system, not just a camera body. The lens is far and away the most important part of that camera system, not the body. For most pros and serious amateurs a camera body (or bodies) constitute a small fraction of their investment in lenses. Every DSLR is capable of taking good pictures, but that's hardly the case with every lens. If you buy a DSLR but do not use it with a good lens, you take away your DSLR's capability to take better quality images than a "point and click."

    Finally, if you do decide that a DSLR is for you, don't just look at Canon and Nikon. They're both excellent brands that make excellent products, but they're not the only ones and other manufacturers may offer cameras which have important features which Canon/Nikon do not have, either at the same price point or at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    Let me ask a basic question - why do you want a DSLR? They do not automagically produce better photos than a regular "point and click." A lot of people buy DSLR's because they are marketed heavily and because their friends/neighbors have them, despite the fact that it is the completely wrong camera for them. DSLR's are capable of taking better pictures than just "point and click" cameras, but they won't do it by themselves - the photographer must be capable of taking good pictures as well. Most people use DSLR's to take bad pictures which may have been better pictures if the camera was NOT a DSLR.

    A DSLR is not the camera for you if:

    1. You don't really intend to learn photography - you know, how light works, f-stops, apertures, etc. The whole point of the (D)SLR is to give the photographer more control over the photography process, and if you aren't capable of using that control, there is no point in having a DSLR. If you are just taking pictures on the "auto" setting, the advantages of the DSLR are lost and only the disadvantages, such as the larger size and weight, remain.

    2. You don't intend to become at least somewhat proficient at Photoshop or similar software. Generally, DSLR photos look worse without post processing than a consumer-camera photo because they are not as sharp or as vivid. A consumer camera does quite a bit of processing in camera. The DSLR end-user is expected to do much of the post processing, such as sharpness and color adjustments, etc. him/herself.

    3. You don't intend to spend good money on lenses. The "kit" lens that comes with the overwhelming majority of DSLR's, especially low-end DSLR's, are utter crap. When buying a DSLR you're buying a camera system, not just a camera body. The lens is far and away the most important part of that camera system, not the body. For most pros and serious amateurs a camera body (or bodies) constitute a small fraction of their investment in lenses. Every DSLR is capable of taking good pictures, but that's hardly the case with every lens. If you buy a DSLR but do not use it with a good lens, you take away your DSLR's capability to take better quality images than a "point and click."

    Finally, if you do decide that a DSLR is for you, don't just look at Canon and Nikon. They're both excellent brands that make excellent products, but they're not the only ones and other manufacturers may offer cameras which have important features which Canon/Nikon do not have, either at the same price point or at all.
    I've gotta agree with all that.
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    Great questions!

    Well, to be honest there are a few reasons I wanted to go DSLR.

    I have small kids and want the ability to take pictures of them during their activities that will not be blurred from a distance (sports/action photography). With my Ghettocam, I was able to take those fun close up candids when we went to hang out (mostly of friends hanging out or whatever), but when I wanted to get actions of my son playing basketball or my daughter playing softball the quality fell short. In addition, I would probably start taking pictures of my friends playing hockey. Cheaper to be the organ-eye-sation photog than make them pay out the ass per picture at tournaments.

    Also, I have specific visions of the type of artwork I want to put in my home, and frankly I would like the flexibility to be able to learn to take those pics myself than pay horrendous amounts for something that isnt exactly what I wanted but is a similarly themed framed art piece. I guess Ive always wanted to get out there and start photography as a hobby with potential, but havent had the time until now to do so.

    I do have enough interest in photography to really want to learn how to take a great picture and I am more than willing to take the time to learn how to use whatever I purchase properly, but Im not sure if I have enough interest to justify cost in what several people here have said they have spent. Im not a professional, and I am not looking to become professional... so I dont want to get in the habit of spending what ValleyFan does on a lens. That's why I started the thread, for good suggestions from knowledgeable people.

    Finally, Im sick to death of being smoked out of the Photography Challenge threads!
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