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    Found this kinda funny considering.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    Found this kinda funny considering.



    tl:dr


    haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalPain
    But seriously why would you spend $3000+ to surf the internet? I can't really defend Windows although Windows 7 is pretty rock solid. Personally I see "Most" Mac users as I am better than you because I own a superior product when it truly isn't. Match a MBP to an AlienWare laptop and you will not see any difference other than the OS. Match a Mac Pro to a Dell Workstation and you will get the same Hardware. Nothing is superior about the hardware. Personally I don't need a Gaming machine or a Dual Xeon 16GB RAM and 3 TB or hard drive space to surf the web, anyone that says they do is a fool, but then we all can spend our money as we see fit. Some people just buy into the marketing like sheep. The whole Apple marketing ploy is and always has been elitist and you know it.
    In all honesty, ANYONE who pays $3000+ to surf the internet is a fool, whether it is mac, pc, unix, OS/2, BeOS, or any other operating system I can think of. Sure, it's their money, and they can spend it as they see fit, but if they dropped over three grand to surf the net and write some papers, well, I have to question their intelligence. Personally, I don't know anyone who owns a $3000 mac... not even my friends who work in graphics.

    Having said that, who the heck buys a $3000 mac? The most expensive iMac (with a 27" screen) is "only" two grand. The most expensive MBP (which I believe only professionals would be buying) are only 2.5 grand. The cheapest MBP is $1100. The cheapest MN is $999. You gotta go to the Mac Pro towers to breach the 3 grand mark. And again, I would be surprised if anyone bought a mac pro just to surf the net. I am not going to deny that macs cost a little more, but I don't think the difference in price is as much as you are making it out to be.

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    Okay, I just got to share this, because it is too funny. As I was typing the post above (talking ****, really), I decided to update my iphone to the newest iOS version that came out this week. Normally, these go smoothly, but this time something went horribly wrong. I ended up having to completely restore my phone just to get it to work again. Well, I am assuming it will work again... it's gonna take a while to reload all that stuff on the phone.

    Sometimes even apple stuff goes ape**** for no reason at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneGK View Post
    tl:dr


    haha.



    In all honesty, ANYONE who pays $3000+ to surf the internet is a fool, whether it is mac, pc, unix, OS/2, BeOS, or any other operating system I can think of. Sure, it's their money, and they can spend it as they see fit, but if they dropped over three grand to surf the net and write some papers, well, I have to question their intelligence. Personally, I don't know anyone who owns a $3000 mac... not even my friends who work in graphics.

    Having said that, who the heck buys a $3000 mac? The most expensive iMac (with a 27" screen) is "only" two grand. The most expensive MBP (which I believe only professionals would be buying) are only 2.5 grand. The cheapest MBP is $1100. The cheapest MN is $999. You gotta go to the Mac Pro towers to breach the 3 grand mark. And again, I would be surprised if anyone bought a mac pro just to surf the net. I am not going to deny that macs cost a little more, but I don't think the difference in price is as much as you are making it out to be.
    I buy the highest end Mac Tower I can so it lasts me the longest. Current=G5 Quad bought in 2006 and it's still kicking ass for my needs (illustration/graphic arts). If I was upgrading every couple of years I wouldn't do it but I hope this lasts another 2 years with no issues before getting a new tower. The only downside for me when it comes to Mac's is the lack of many if any options for upgrading graphics cards.

    I don't need the latest...but I like the greatest (at the time) when it comes to tech. I'm not a programmer so I don't care about what my OS can't do. As long as it's stable and does what I want without me having to be too involved with it I'm happy and can concentrate on my art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisch View Post
    I buy the highest end Mac Tower I can so it lasts me the longest. Current=G5 Quad bought in 2006 and it's still kicking ass for my needs (illustration/graphic arts). If I was upgrading every couple of years I wouldn't do it but I hope this lasts another 2 years with no issues before getting a new tower. The only downside for me when it comes to Mac's is the lack of many if any options for upgrading graphics cards.

    I don't need the latest...but I like the greatest (at the time) when it comes to tech. I'm not a programmer so I don't care about what my OS can't do. As long as it's stable and does what I want without me having to be too involved with it I'm happy and can concentrate on my art.
    This is the main reason why I still use Windows. For $600-800 I can build a PC from scratch and have the latest parts. The systems that had the blue screen or other issues were from companies who used cheap parts and no name brands (not including the bloatware). Anyone can build their own PC if they just spent 1 hour reading instructions and used common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisch View Post
    I buy the highest end Mac Tower I can so it lasts me the longest. Current=G5 Quad bought in 2006 and it's still kicking ass for my needs (illustration/graphic arts). If I was upgrading every couple of years I wouldn't do it but I hope this lasts another 2 years with no issues before getting a new tower. The only downside for me when it comes to Mac's is the lack of many if any options for upgrading graphics cards.

    I don't need the latest...but I like the greatest (at the time) when it comes to tech. I'm not a programmer so I don't care about what my OS can't do. As long as it's stable and does what I want without me having to be too involved with it I'm happy and can concentrate on my art.
    Well, that's kind of my point. People who need the horsepower for their work, such as graphic artists, are the ones buying the high-end towers. No one is buying $3+ grand computers to surf the Internet like RP was suggesting.

    I too buy the towers, but I usually buy them used and keep them for years. I can't really afford to buy the newest towers, which I'd love to do. I know what you mean about the graphics card, especially on a G5. I've had to resort to returning to the stock card after my high end card kept blowing fans a d stinking up my whole room. I hope to get a new tower in the next couple of years too.
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    apple and their products are for ppl to handicapped to run microsoft software, and have lots of money to burn on the over priced hardware/software apple provides. Windows xp is the best platform , period.
    I built this machine i use for approx. 300$ 5 years ago, and its still running strong. I'd love to see what kind of an apple you could get for that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbojone View Post
    apple and their products are for ppl to handicapped to run microsoft software, and have lots of money to burn on the over priced hardware/software apple provides. Windows xp is the best platform , period.
    Actually, I think I read that on the box of my MBA when I bought it. It's actually what sold me on apple... being "to (sic) handicapped to run microsoft software."
    I built this machine i use for approx. 300$ 5 years ago, and its still running strong. I'd love to see what kind of an apple you could get for that money.
    Some people don't want to build their own computers. They'd rather pay someone else to do it for them. There's a lot of stuff I can do on my own that I choose not to do. I don't change my own oil in my car, replace the brakes on my car myself, cook my own food (usually), cut my own hair, sew my own clothes (yes, I know how to sew), wash my own car, and probably some other stuff too that I could think of if I had the time. Just because I choose not to do it doesn't mean I am too handicapped to do it. It just means I'd rather pay someone else to do it for me. That's no different than me calling you a cheap bastard because you put a computer together yourself when you could have just as easily bought one already made at Best Buy.

    As for XP, I'm sorry, but XP is just a piece of crap. I have XP on my computer and use it from time to time. I used to use it more often, but found ways to stay away from it since then. It's running on the same computer as OSX, and it seems that every time I start it up, it wants to update something, either virus definitions, system software, my printer software, and who knows what else. Crazy part is that all I use it for is surfing the internet (if I am already in XP), and two simple pieces of software that are needed for my job, but don't come in Mac versions. Once the whole thing is loaded and started up, XP runs fine. But damn, it sure takes a long time to figure out where it is and what it wants to do.

    Btw, if windows XP cost over $200 by itself, and a good video card cost at least $100 by itself, how did you build a machine for $300?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneGK View Post
    Actually, I think I read that on the box of my MBA when I bought it. It's actually what sold me on apple... being "to (sic) handicapped to run microsoft software."


    Some people don't want to build their own computers. They'd rather pay someone else to do it for them. There's a lot of stuff I can do on my own that I choose not to do. I don't change my own oil in my car, replace the brakes on my car myself, cook my own food (usually), cut my own hair, sew my own clothes (yes, I know how to sew), wash my own car, and probably some other stuff too that I could think of if I had the time. Just because I choose not to do it doesn't mean I am too handicapped to do it. It just means I'd rather pay someone else to do it for me. That's no different than me calling you a cheap bastard because you put a computer together yourself when you could have just as easily bought one already made at Best Buy.

    As for XP, I'm sorry, but XP is just a piece of crap. I have XP on my computer and use it from time to time. I used to use it more often, but found ways to stay away from it since then. It's running on the same computer as OSX, and it seems that every time I start it up, it wants to update something, either virus definitions, system software, my printer software, and who knows what else. Crazy part is that all I use it for is surfing the internet (if I am already in XP), and two simple pieces of software that are needed for my job, but don't come in Mac versions. Once the whole thing is loaded and started up, XP runs fine. But damn, it sure takes a long time to figure out where it is and what it wants to do.

    Btw, if windows XP cost over $200 by itself, and a good video card cost at least $100 by itself, how did you build a machine for $300?
    When did Windows ever cost $200 (except for buying it from Best Buy)? BTW Windows XP was pure crap but Windows 7 is flawless if you don't reuse the old products.

    Windows XP or 7 ($125)
    Motherboard/CPU combo $59 - $99 (I missed 3 years ago when computer components were pennies a piece)
    DDR 2 Memory $20-40
    Decent video card $50
    Hard Drive $40
    DVD Reader/Writer $30

    Total around $324 - $384.

    Again this is for a non Celeron POS Windows PC with enough firepower to last you for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneGK View Post
    Btw, if windows XP cost over $200 by itself, and a good video card cost at least $100 by itself, how did you build a machine for $300?
    If we're using the same scenario of a decent machine that just runs a browser, youtube and anything but Crysis then a video card half that price is sufficient (if you don't buy anything from Best Buy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneGK View Post

    Some people don't want to build their own computers. They'd rather pay someone else to do it for them. There's a lot of stuff I can do on my own that I choose not to do. I don't change my own oil in my car, replace the brakes on my car myself, cook my own food (usually), cut my own hair, sew my own clothes (yes, I know how to sew), wash my own car, and probably some other stuff too that I could think of if I had the time. Just because I choose not to do it doesn't mean I am too handicapped to do it. It just means I'd rather pay someone else to do it for me. That's no different than me calling you a cheap bastard because you put a computer together yourself when you could have just as easily bought one already made at Best Buy.

    As for XP, I'm sorry, but XP is just a piece of crap. I have XP on my computer and use it from time to time. I used to use it more often, but found ways to stay away from it since then. It's running on the same computer as OSX, and it seems that every time I start it up, it wants to update something, either virus definitions, system software, my printer software, and who knows what else. Crazy part is that all I use it for is surfing the internet (if I am already in XP), and two simple pieces of software that are needed for my job, but don't come in Mac versions. Once the whole thing is loaded and started up, XP runs fine. But damn, it sure takes a long time to figure out where it is and what it wants to do.

    Btw, if windows XP cost over $200 by itself, and a good video card cost at least $100 by itself, how did you build a machine for $300?
    First off, your running xp ona mac, so your opinion of it is null and void.
    Secondly, your saying how it needs to update all the time. yes, there are updates. if your printer software is updating every time you turn on xp, you have an issue. printer software is updated maybe twice in the lifetime of ANY printer. Your virus definitions update all the time, because i think somewhere in the vicinity of 50 - 100 new virii are created every day. Lastly, regarding the updates. this is generally achieved by a couple of mouse clicks. If this is too strenuous for you, then by all means, perhaps you may wish to keep away from computers as a whole.
    I never said ppl have to build their own computer, and people that didnt were handicapped. Your making things up at this point.
    Lastly, regarding the costs of the machine i built, 140 for cpu/mobo, 50 for hd, 30 for dvd rw 30 for case/psu and 50 for ram. i already had a kb/mouse, but they're only about 20$ new anyways
    i did not need to pay for my copy of windows. only suckers do that.
    as for a "descent" video card costing 100$, yes, you can get a crappy video card for 100$if your playing games on your pc, but you wouldn't build one this cheap for games. my mobo has onboard video.
    the point i was trying to make was regarding the COST of pc's vs. the costs of macs.
    you can even get a pre-built machine for about 400-500. what kind of an apple can you get for this amount of money?

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