Thread: HD Format War "News"

Originally Posted by Unfiltered

You can't always look at TV shows like that, as not all shows on any particular network are produced by them. (Ex. Scrubs in on NBC but yet is a Buena Vista/Touchstone release. My Name Is Earl is on NBC as well, but is produced by 20th Century Fox. House is a Universal release but airs on Fox.)

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. Just assuming. Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. Just assuming. Thanks for clearing that up.

It can get confusing.

Originally Posted by dgrycan

While I agree with you that this should have been done and finished long before now, don't ignore the fact that money is the reason this is still existing all together. Sony versus Toshiba, and royalties for their formats.

One thing in this whole format war that really pisses me off is a group of the marketplace that, for one reason or another (past arrogance, whatever) just don't like Sony no matter what they do. HD-DVD could look piss poor, and Blu-ray could be the best thing since sliced bread, and people would still lobby around Sony.

What most fail to see is that, unlike the past, TOSHIBA is actually the "Sony" of this battle. They are the sole provider of the hardware for their format. They've designed and priced it now so no indepentent CE companies can even consider entering the marketplace. Meanwhile, Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer - all companies who are well entrenched in the Blu-ray marketplace.

Sony is the one with the vertical monopoly. From Movies to Video Games to the Player itself.

RCA, Miscrosoft and LG have produced HD-DVD players. Just like Panasonic, Pioneer and Samsung have Blu-ray players.

With that said. I bet the percentages of players is more diverse in the HD-DVD camp, since 155,000 or so Microsoft addons have been sold, than the Bluray (PS3).

I think you are being a bit facetious saying that HD-DVD looks piss poor also. The differences are minor and can anyone say Fifth Element?

Why don't Toshiba & Sony go on some crazy Japanese game show like "Magic Castle" and settle this once and for all???

I bought an HD-DVD player because of the price. Since I invested $400 in it I'll be cheering for it to win. But if it doesn't, then I'll know how the laser-disc owners of a few years ago feel.

It's not looking good for HD-DVD but one never knows, I thought I read an electronics magazine that said the Adult Entertainment industry chose HD-DVD and when they choose a format that's usually the format that wins...

This kind of crap annoys me. Most of your Average Joe consumers are pefectly content with DVD as the standard format, and I believe a good portion would rather stay with that as the stable standard, then be asked to invest in an offshoot technology that may, or more likely may not be the standard in another 3-4 years. Do both formats improve upon DVD technology? Absolutely. Do they change the technology to an appreciable enough degree to warrant customers going out and buying into it? I don't believe so.

I don't see this as VHS/Beta, I see this as the war of the "next-gen" placeholders for the next great technology on the market. The rise of mp3 and online media has already illustrated that optical media's days are numbered.

Originally Posted by dsctaz

I bought an HD-DVD player because of the price. Since I invested $400 in it I'll be cheering for it to win. But if it doesn't, then I'll know how the laser-disc owners of a few years ago feel.

It's not looking good for HD-DVD but one never knows, I thought I read an electronics magazine that said the Adult Entertainment industry chose HD-DVD and when they choose a format that's usually the format that wins...

What I had read was that they didn't explicitly choose HD DVD but that what happened is there are only so many facilities in the world at the moment where they produce the disks and all the BluRAY facilities want to produce Disney disks and Disney refused to have their disks produced in a facility if that facility also produced any kind of adult disks. Meaning that porn was more locked out of BluRay facilities than they were choosing HDDVD.

Now maybe I got that confused but I think that is what I read.

Originally Posted by Socrates

What I had read was that they didn't explicitly choose HD DVD but that what happened is there are only so many facilities in the world at the moment where they produce the disks and all the BluRAY facilities want to produce Disney disks and Disney refused to have their disks produced in a facility if that facility also produced any kind of adult disks. Meaning that porn was more locked out of BluRay facilities than they were choosing HDDVD.

Now maybe I got that confused but I think that is what I read.

That's probably what that mag said, and it makes sense. Disney made the choice for them I guess.

Originally Posted by go

Sony is the one with the vertical monopoly. From Movies to Video Games to the Player itself.

RCA, Miscrosoft and LG have produced HD-DVD players. Just like Panasonic, Pioneer and Samsung have Blu-ray players.

Wrong on all three counts.

Movies? I'd love for you to show me the monopoly that Sony has on Blu-ray movies.

Video games? Again . . . same as above.

Players? You mention RCA (who has abandoned HD-DVD already), and MICROSOFT? You know that Toshiba manufactures the 360 Add-on, right? LG has NOT manufactured an HD-DVD player, that's a flat out lie. They developed a Blu-ray player that was adapted to be able to play HD-DVD discs. It did not meet the specs to be able to carry the HD-DVD logo, however.

And I'm still not sure how you can claim that Sony has a monopoly on players while in the same post mentioned other CE companies (direct competitors of Sony) who manufacture players.

With all due respect, I think it's pretty clear you fall into the "Sony = evil" crowd.