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    Don't hurt me, ValleyFan... I Added More. Be gentle.

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    I've added a couple to my orginal post, here.




    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyFan View Post

    Red, green, yellow


    I like this concept. Although the size of the limes relative to the lemons and the nectarines throws me off a bit. I'd maybe try cropping that one tighter to get it a bit closer to the other two. Also, the single stem coming off the left lemon really distracts me.

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    Red Kitchen bowl:


    I LOVE these types of shots. This one is nice, but the specks of ? on the right side are really taking away from the image.

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    I like this shot as well. I feel like the buildings and such in the upper left are hurting the effect. If you were able to crop out most of the lights and still keep the some of the starting point of the road, I think it would help.

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    All my critiques are based on personal opinions and may be entirely without merit. But they are thought out and presented with the intent of giving each other a fresh set of eyes to improve our chops. My intent is never to crush anyone's fragile spirit, but if that happens, well then bonus points for me.


    FBJ:
    Like the new images a lot as a whole. Great color and, as always, really nice composition. Just a few things to nit-pick about. On "Turnkey" I would have been more interested in seeing you exploit the shapes and colors of this subject. I get the sense that you pulled back to make sure the viewer knew it was a group of wind-up keys, but I think if you were to abandon the idea that the viewer needs to know what they are looking at (in this instance), there are a lot of possibilities for simple yet interesting composition there. But I realize your options were limited since I think you were hanging over a second floor railing to take this if I remember correctly. • "Umbrellary"; you saw the great composition of color over color, overlaid beautifully by a triangular frame, and you knew exactly how you were going to crop it (beautifully, btw)... but you missed the folded over flap on the umbrella. Super nick-picky I know, but "scanning the frame" is something I've been working on myself, so that's why it stood out to me. • "Stars Upon Thars"; LOVE the negative space here, and the colors and shapes are outstanding, but just as an exercise, rotate this image 180 degrees. I'm not suggesting it as the proper orientation, but it does give it a different, I don't know, center of balance. Would be curious what you thought either way. Great stuff as always

    BIG JOE:
    I had a thought on your radio dial experiment. I'm talking HDR, but old school Ansel Adams HDR. Try this: First off, lower that ISO. The noise is working against you in terms of clarity. Then test shoot images for the dial alone (low ISO, slower shutter). When you get what looks good to you for the lighted dial only, make note of how long the shutter speed is (for example, say 2 seconds). Now this is where it gets really convoluted. Make your shutter speed 15 seconds, auto-time the shutter, when the shutter opens count off the 2 seconds that gave you a good lighted dial, then physically unplug the radio so the light goes off. Then slowly wave a lit iPod or cell phone in front of the radio face for the duration of the exposure. This would take place in the dark obviously, but this is old school dodging and burning. I don't really know for sure what the result will be, but it will be different.

    OTTo VoN BLoTTo:
    The Tack Attack series is awesome. One day when I steal this idea (oh, and I will steal it), I promise I will have the courtesy to not claim to have invented it. Great stuff.

    ValleyFan:
    Go ahead and take a few dabs with the blemish tool on the "Red Kitchen Bowl" pic. Great image but those floating dust bits are distracting. The look is too smooth to ignore it. • "5 South"; I disagree with the previous opinion that the buildings are a distraction. In fact, I think the latest crop is not as effective as the initial version you posted. The buildings gave it context and really pronounced the movement of the lights below. To me, it's not as effective without the stationary aspect. Also, I see a great crop (too tight maybe), just around the merge sign.

    Blurker:
    Love the board shots, especially the first one. Nice graduated lighting over the pots. Like the soft spot lighting on the first golf ball also, though you did get a little hot on a couple of the dimples. How did you light that? And the red one too, how? Nice set.

    rinkrat:
    The neon shots are awesome. I need to find some neon in my neck of the woods.

    PuckHead27:
    Great images. Agreeing with ValleyFan a bit on the lighthouse pic, but maybe it isn't the angle that is the issue, so much as maybe it's too centered. A slight crop to put the subject into the "visual center" instead of the strict center would give the lighthouse a little more presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuckMonkey View Post
    Blurker:
    Love the board shots, especially the first one. Nice graduated lighting over the pots. Like the soft spot lighting on the first golf ball also, though you did get a little hot on a couple of the dimples. How did you light that? And the red one too, how? Nice set.
    The mixing board shots were available light through a window in my office. The first one was a 2 second exposure @ f/16. If I get time, I might try the recropping that's been suggested by a couple of y'all.

    The white ball was lit using the on-board flash on my XTi. I was flagging the flash with my free hand while shooting, so that explains the lack of background light. Most of the other shots looked like crap, so I guess I got lucky here. I'll admit that I did tweak contrast a bit to cut down on the hotspot and help the background fall off just a bit more. But I didn't want to take it too far. If I was serious about it, I could certainly use the burn in tool in Photoshop to knock down the glare a bit more...

    The red ball was lit by...

    The red ball.

    It's the same ball as the first shot, it's just lit with an internal flashing LED that's activated by impact so that you can play golf at night without paying the high greens fees at your local country club. *cough* *cough*

    The exposure details were 1/20th sec @ f/5.6 at 1600 ISO.

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    OK, I posted new versions with some of the suggestions made.

    I totally agree with the dust being distracting, and in my haze of illness over the weekend, I apparently didn't notice or care how dusty my water was, so with the permission granted to use the healing tool, I abused those pixels to the best of my ability.

    For the 5 South shot, I am not sure what the "right" crop for this is. I'm not too happy with any of the ones I have done so far, but I had another try. The one thing I did with this version is to burn the sings a bit so they weren't so crazy over exposed. I think really, I'm wishing I was set up more camera left of where I was. I like the idea of the really tight crop, I'll try it out and see if I have the pixels to do it.

    Blurker I see what you are saying with the Red, Green, Yellow triptych. I was trying to have some fruit that still had some leaf on it, and the closest I came was the stem on the lemon, and I think you are right, it is more distracting than anything. With the relative size of the fruits, I was trying to keep about the same negative space one the sides of each, so perhaps instead of cropping what I should to is clump the limes a little closer together, so I can push in on them more, fill more of the frame but keep the negative space around the edges. I'm hoping to reshoot this setup with some colored backgrounds, so I'll give it another go perhaps this weekend.

    Thank you guys for the feedback!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyFan
    Landscape shots in this weather are hard, because they often end up bing low contrast due to all the atmosphere. Beyond doing some photomagic in something like Photoshop, I think a simple crop might help here. If you cropped of the top of the image, where the background is fading to gray, you still get a lot of the rainbow, and retain the high contrast portion at the bottom of the image.
    I gave it a try. Please check my original post for the update.

    I messed up and cropped the original instead of the copy that I made, so everyone that "quoted" that photo in a response now has the edited/cropped version.

    Did that make any sense?

    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyFan
    The colors in this are great, but I think that the viewing angle is disadvantages for the lighthouse, as it makes it feel probably shorter than it is. Of course this might not help you at all because this might have been the only place you could get a shot of the lighthouse, but if at all possible, try and get that camera low so something like a lighthouse looks nice and big.
    Actually that lighthouse is pretty stubby compared to most. From sea level it's located high up on the cliff so they really didn't need to build it very tall. You're right about my viewing angles, we had to hike up to the viewing platform located above the lighthouse to get a shot of it. Really great coastline views from up there BTW. Thanks again for all the great advice!!

    Quote Originally Posted by PuckMonkey
    Great images. Agreeing with ValleyFan a bit on the lighthouse pic, but maybe it isn't the angle that is the issue, so much as maybe it's too centered. A slight crop to put the subject into the "visual center" instead of the strict center would give the lighthouse a little more presence.
    Thanks for the advice PM. I gave it a try and I've added the "attempt" the my original post.
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    ^ Wow. HUGE difference. It's amazing what 37 pixels worth of dust can do to an image.



    ^ I like this much better, and it now balances the image with the merge sign (which I am fixated on for some reason). How averse would you be to dodging that merge sign by a stop and a half?



    ^ Knocking it off center makes a difference, but not as much as I had hoped. What's your thought on the difference? Maybe try going "rule of thirds" with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuckMonkey View Post
    Knocking it off center makes a difference, but not as much as I had hoped. What's your thought on the difference? Maybe try going "rule of thirds" with it.
    I liked it better than my original photo, but like you I'm not sure it made that much of a difference.

    I made another copy and gave it another go, this time attempting to use the "rule of thirds." I like it even better. A positive side effect is that the lighthouse (although still small) does not look as tiny as it did before.

    My Original Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuckHead27 View Post
    I gave it a try. Please check my original post for the update.

    I messed up and cropped the original instead of the copy that I made, so everyone that "quoted" that photo in a response now has the edited/cropped version.
    I like it better, I would be interested to see if you kept the width, but cropped the top off, so it was in something like a 2.40:1 aspect ratio instead 4:3 (sorry, I wasn't clear in my original comment).

    I like the lighthouse crop a lot! PM knows what he is talking about.

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    One more added to my set from the arboretum.

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