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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    To me, the reasons are obvious and compelling. Ideally you could spend some time using both before making your decision. Or you could listen to a ducks fan that has never owned a Mac...
    my budget is pretty flexible and my uses are almost exactly the same as yours. I think im ready to try something new after using pc's my entire life and dealing with antivirus crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    so no comment on the inability to upgrade something as simple as a dvd drive on a laptop?

    I think I'm beginning to understand...Mac owners upgrade an entire machine at a time. It's better to drop $2-3k on a new machine than to spend a few hundred for parts if it means actually knowing how to perform an upgrade.

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    I didn't comment because I have no need to upgrade a DVD drive. I very, very rarely watch DVDs on computer, and what I have in my MacBook is far beyond adequate. It's not a relevant concern for me.

    I use laptops only and most laptops crap out within a few years anyway. My MacBook was $1200 ($1300 after taxes). My VAIO laptop, purchased in March '05 for essentially the same price (slightly more actually), was the worst purchase I ever made--it crapped out in 15 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    I didn't comment because I have no need to upgrade a DVD drive. I very, very rarely watch DVDs on computer, and what I have in my MacBook is far beyond adequate. It's not a relevant concern for me.

    I use laptops only and most laptops crap out within a few years anyway. My MacBook was $1200 ($1300 after taxes). My VAIO laptop, purchased in March '05 for essentially the same price (slightly more actually), was the worst purchase I ever made--it crapped out in 15 months.
    Fair enough...I'll drop the argument. I was hoping I'd get a little more help on this but I'm flying solo here.

    However I will say that my laptop is 2 years old next week and working like a charm . I want to upgrade the hard drive and dvd drive for more space and faster burning speeds. An extra gig of ram and I'll be able to use this for another 2-3 years easy.

    As for my "passion" for the subject...I just didn't want to see another unwitting person get sucked into the Apple machine because he/she didn't know any better. I suppose I underestimated just how strongly some people feel about not having to think about certain things. Personally, I love to tear these things up not only to see what makes them tick but to get the most out of my machines. My desktop is also a Sony Vaio and it's 5 years old and running smooth as butter.

    I just want people to know that if they are willing to learn something new they can not only have machines that work as well as apples but have them come in at a lower cost and get them to do things better. That's all.
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    I'm a convenience whore. I'm fairly computer-savvy as a user, but I'm no techie. And I like OSX a LOT better than Windows.

    I use a PC at work all day, and I've owned PC desktops and laptops for many years. I start grad school in the fall and I needed a new laptop because I'd been putting it off since my VAIO crapped out. The people who I trust most when it comes to computer knowledge recommended the MacBook so I tested out my friends' machines, loved it, and made the switch.

    Granted, I've been a Mac user for all of 5 weeks now, but I don't see myself ever going back for my home use. I'll be using PCs at work for the rest of my life anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    Fair enough...I'll drop the argument. I was hoping I'd get a little more help on this but I'm flying solo here.
    Meh, you're not really flying solo, you're just the only one taking the time to respond again and again. Most PC users are happy with what they have so you won't find many who will take the time to defend something that doesn't need defending. There may be more people in this thread that are pro-mac but that doesn't translate to what's really going on in the market place. Think in terms of reading customer reviews for any given product. The people who buy a widget that breaks 3 months later are going to way more likely to tell you how much that widget sucks than the guy who buys it and never has a problem. It skews the numbers.

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    You can get a student discount when you buy your new MAC.

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    It really is not the PC that is a bad machine its Microsoft. Everyone hates Microsoft and there really is no choice out there to get away from it at this point.

    Linux or Unix and its variants - who makes software in Linux for the everyday user in the business world?
    Mac OS - Still the red headed step child and almost as limited on software choices as Linux.
    IBM OS - Does anyone really run this stuff?


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    Flame Wars: The Street Says Mac Users are Snobs, PC Users are Cheapskates


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    Oh yeah, and PC just means "Personal Computer". Which, obviously, includes Macs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    if you can't tell the difference once you pass 200kbps can you explain to me why you are ripping dics at 320kbps? It doesn't make any sense and it's far from practical.

    an 80gb ipod will hold 20,000 songs (assuming 4min song length and 128kbps).

    if you rip at 320kpbs you are only holding then all of a sudden your 80gb ipod only holds 8000.

    I rip at a VBR that averages around 220kbps. Read up on VBR...it basically ensures the same fidelity as 320kbps but in an obviously smaller file size. Now, if you rip CDs like I do your 80gb iPod will hold 11,600 songs. Now do you see the value?

    A little know how and intuitiveness and your iPod holds about 45% more content and the music sounds amazing.

    This is what I'm talking about when I rip on Macs. It seems to me that Mac owners trust that Apple knows best and by using their products they must be in this secret council of higher knowledge. It's simply not true. I'll harp on the music thing because I have a ton of music and am always listening to it. When your music collection is in the 100gb range, you care about music fidelity AND file storage space is an issue you learn to do things the best way not just the Apple way.
    Alright I'm done arguing with you since obviously you don't know how an argument works.... My point in my comment has absolutely nothing to do with what you said in response. It would seem that you just read a few words of them and then go off on your own tangent without really truly making a point that connects to anthing else. I'm done wasting my time. Good day sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithium View Post
    Alright I'm done arguing with you since obviously you don't know how an argument works.... My point in my comment has absolutely nothing to do with what you said in response. It would seem that you just read a few words of them and then go off on your own tangent without really truly making a point that connects to anthing else. I'm done wasting my time. Good day sir.
    Wow...I'll give you the remedial version

    320kbps audio fidelity = avg 220kbps VBR audio fidelity
    same sound quality but in a smaller file size .... more songs on iPod

    Get it? My point is people should look into doing things better so that they can get the most out of what they buy. I guess Mac owners just don't want to bother. That's fine, I get it, it's possible to be both computer literate and lazy at the same time.

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