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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    My Response: This phone is in the "smart phone" category. The 8525 is $599, Blackberry 8800 is $499, Treo 750 $549 etc etc etc. Besides, i phone has an ipod built in..and if you want a smart phone, get used to higher prices.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that a smartphone allows for third party software to be installed. Since the iPhone is limited to what Apple allows for the thing really isn't a smartphone at all. It's basically an 8 gig iPod with a touchscreen that can make phone calls and send email. That's worth 6 bills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lath19 View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that a smartphone allows for third party software to be installed. Since the iPhone is limited to what Apple allows for the thing really isn't a smartphone at all. It's basically an 8 gig iPod with a touchscreen that can make phone calls and send email. That's worth 6 bills?
    Actually by definition it is a smartphone. A smartphone is a category of mobile device that provides advanced capabilities beyond a typical mobile phone. Compared to standard phones, smartphones usually have larger displays and more powerful processors. It has an email client, internet and has Wifi..so it does qualify as a smartphone.

    The Nextel i930 (WM smartphone) was the same way. It was locked so you couldnt buy any apps for it (unless you hacked it). It was still considered a smartphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Actually by definition it is a smartphone. A smartphone is a category of mobile device that provides advanced capabilities beyond a typical mobile phone. Compared to standard phones, smartphones usually have larger displays and more powerful processors. It has an email client, internet and has Wifi..so it does qualify as a smartphone.
    My a920 has email, EVDO, camera/camcorder, mp3 player, media player, and other advanced capabilities beyond a typical mobile device. I sure as hell wouldn't consider it a smartphone (nor do I think anybody else would). Then again by the definition you provided most phones made these days would be considered smartphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lath19 View Post
    My a920 has email, EVDO, camera/camcorder, mp3 player, media player, and other advanced capabilities beyond a typical mobile device. I sure as hell wouldn't consider it a smartphone (nor do I think anybody else would). Then again by the definition you provided most phones made these days would be considered smartphones.
    The a920 does not have an email client, its a web application. A camera, mp3 player and media player are all pretty standard on todays phones. So you are right, your a 920 is not a smartphone.

    As I mentioned, the iPhone has a built in email client, Wifi, a real web browser, unique OS, dedicated processor, as well as a large touch screen which makes it different from your a920 and most "regular" cell phones thus, making it a smartphone.
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    1. At $599, it is ridiculously expensive.
    - Yes, it's not subsidized.

    2. ...one must sell their soul to evil AT&T.
    This should be #1. :(

    3. Japan has technologically superior/cheaper phones.
    Japan, Korea, UK, hell even the UAE have better phones. It's no secret that they have us beat in every facet in this regard.

    4. Slower internet than the commercials show:
    This is a toss up. It works great jumping on Wifi networks, and Edge is questionable depending on your location.

    5. YouTube is slow and crappy using EDGE.
    -Fast on Wifi, questionable on Edge. Regardless, I don't use it as much.

    6. You cannot remove its battery. Thanks for replicating one of the biggest complaints about the ipod, Apple!
    - This is irrelevant to me. The full charge will max to 80% after 300 full cycle charges.......which is close to 2 years. My phone will be sold by then.

    7. The glass touch screen of the iPhone guarantees that thousands of customers who drop their phones will have cracked screens.
    - Far from the truth.....no guarantee on that. This is baseless. There are a good number of people out there that have dropped their phone. No cracked screens for the majority of them.

    8. The touchscreen keyboard sucks, according to those who have used the phone.
    -I love it and type faster now than on my old Curve.

    9. It can’t send MMS picture messages.
    - I rarely use MMS, but the next sw update will fix this. Also, there's a temporary solution to this by sending pictures to carrier picture emails (12345551212@vrzwpix.com)

    10. The camera has little or no options, and the pictures it takes aren’t very good.
    - The next sw update will fix this. Pictures are decent.

    11. It lacks proper support for Flash websites. So much for the internet.
    - Again, next sw update will fix this. This 'internet' on my iPhone beats my old internet experience on my Curve.

    12. It can’t record video.
    - Neither can a lot of highly rated phones/smart phones out there.

    13. “Pinching” pictures to zoom might look neat in commercials, but many reviewers are saying it actually sucks.
    -It doesn't suck for me.

    14. It lacks 3G high-speed data transfer.
    -I miss it. :(

    15. No songs as ringtones.
    -Hacks allow it to be done relatively easy. Next sw update will provide this option.

    16. No GPS.
    - This is a toss up. There are methods to work around this, but it's true....there is NO true GPS on this.

    17. It doesn’t work under 64-bit Windows XP / Windows Vista!
    -Next sw update will provide support, but I don't use a 64bit XP, so that doesn't really bother me or a good amount of computer users out there.

    18. It only allows for a maximum of 1 picture to be attached to each e-mail you send.
    - Yes, next sw update will fix this.

    19. It doesn’t have a file browser/organizer.
    - Integration with Leopard will allow this in terms of accessing and storing files/folders to/from computer. Watch for this in October.

    20. Its default ringtones suck.
    Eh, it's a toss up....but why the **** would that dissuade you to buy it? Also, there are hacks to put your own as well as the next sw update.

    21. You can not save documents on it: documents can only be viewed as attachments when they’re sent to your e-mail address.
    Next sw update.

    22. No games!!
    -I never played games on any of my previous phones. Apple said it will allow it soon.

    23. Its “quick list” dialing sucks compared to traditional speed dialing, which it lacks..
    -It sucks? True, no true speed dialing, but there is a screen with favorites that works just as fast.

    24. Long activation waits: many new iPhone users are reporting that they are being told to wait hours or even days to activate service for their phone. Thanks, AT&T!
    -Yes....in the first weekend of its release. It's quick now for obvious reasons.

    25. Heat issues: the iPhone can get very hot when it is in use.
    Not for me....and for my 7 friends who have the phone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by grncobra View Post
    So which store can I run out and buy this at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    As I mentioned, the iPhone has a built in email client, Wifi, a real web browser, unique OS, dedicated processor, as well as a large touch screen which makes it different from your a920 and most "regular" cell phones thus, making it a smartphone.
    It's just a smartphone that does a lot less than other smartphones of similar cost. I guess that is something for Apple to hang their hat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRice View Post
    So which store can I run out and buy this at?
    The HTC Touch is not available in the US yet. You can buy them unlocked and use on a GSM carrier here tho.

    I'm thinking about getting the HTC Kaiser..but price is pretty high at over $800+. The 8525 with WM6 is just fine for now tho...although I find myself switching back and fourth between that and a Blackberry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Taco View Post
    9. It can’t send MMS picture messages.
    - I rarely use MMS, but the next sw update will fix this. Also, there's a temporary solution to this by sending pictures to carrier picture emails (12345551212@vrzwpix.com)

    10. The camera has little or no options, and the pictures it takes aren’t very good.
    - The next sw update will fix this. Pictures are decent.

    11. It lacks proper support for Flash websites. So much for the internet.
    - Again, next sw update will fix this. This 'internet' on my iPhone beats my old internet experience on my Curve.

    15. No songs as ringtones.
    -Hacks allow it to be done relatively easy. Next sw update will provide this option.

    17. It doesn’t work under 64-bit Windows XP / Windows Vista!
    -Next sw update will provide support, but I don't use a 64bit XP, so that doesn't really bother me or a good amount of computer users out there.

    18. It only allows for a maximum of 1 picture to be attached to each e-mail you send.
    - Yes, next sw update will fix this.

    19. It doesn’t have a file browser/organizer.
    - Integration with Leopard will allow this in terms of accessing and storing files/folders to/from computer. Watch for this in October.

    20. Its default ringtones suck.
    Eh, it's a toss up....but why the **** would that dissuade you to buy it? Also, there are hacks to put your own as well as the next sw update.

    21. You can not save documents on it: documents can only be viewed as attachments when they’re sent to your e-mail address.
    Next sw update.

    22. No games!!
    -I never played games on any of my previous phones. Apple said it will allow it soon.
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    First off, I want to go on record that I have had the iPhone since the day of the release (and no, I didn't stand in line for 3 days. I drove to the Apple Store at 8:30pm that day, walked in, bought the phone, walked out), and its the best phone I have owned so far.

    But this 'software update' rumor is getting out of control. There isn't a shred of proof out there that Apple is going to do ANY of those things you listed, or any of the hundreds of other 'updates' people are spreading over the internet. For all we know, the update feature may be for security updates only. Everything else is PURE speculation.

    Unless of course, you work for the Apple iPhone development team and are working on these things yourself. Then by all means, tell me more...
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