January 6th, 2008, 08:29 PM #71
Gimme' some time to inventory, then I'll get back to you...
Originally Posted by Mr. Irreverent
January 6th, 2008, 08:57 PM #72
I don't think the studios (and Warner, since it's the topic) are 100% concerned over the people who have HD DVD in their house. First off, since it's composed of a GREAT DEAL of early adopters, there is a decent percentage of these that already have Blu-ray. There are also a lot of users with more than one HD DVD player in their homes - also reducing the number of actual people affected. Still . . .
Studios are more concerned with a good chunk of HDTV owners who know the technology well enough, have the money (obviously - anyone who drops $2000 on a TV won't see $300 for a matching player to be ridiculous at all), and have stated in MANY different research levels that they were waiting for the format war to be decided before investing.
As for the 720p/1080i players - they AREN'T COMING. We've talked about this before. 720p/1080i players aren't coming because they aren't in the spec - and they aren't NEEDED. Blu-ray is going to win this war on the merits that I believed all along - studio support and CE support. Both of those, as well, will end up keeping the format competitive within itself. Companies will be fighting between themselves for consumers money. The price will drop. We don't have a starting price of DVD players at $600 right now - even though that's what I paid for my first one.
Do you really think that, despite history of every other home video format, that prices aren't going to drop as manfacturing and competition develops?
BTW . . . during Toshiba's press conference today, they showed some VERY surprising sales figures that put HD DVD and BD stand alone players (not including the PS3 or the 360 Drive) at almost EVEN. These shocked EVERYONE, as it was always expected after the Black Friday dump, and all of these other mystery sales - and they were OUTSOLD over the holiday season. (Easy to compute, since HD DVD had a rather large lead in SA players mid-year.)
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January 6th, 2008, 09:08 PM #73
Not needed? What is not needed is 1080p when my TV (not to mention millions of others) is only 720p.
If they want more people to buy it why not a 720p version? It should certainly be cheaper. A 1080p player is a waste for tvs that cannot accept 1080p.
Yes 720p is better than 480p (DVD). A downrezzed 1080p picture is better than an uprezzed 480p one.
Last edited by go; January 6th, 2008 at 09:11 PM.
January 6th, 2008, 09:18 PM #74
You don't think very far into the future, do you. Will your NEXT TV be a 720p? We are seeing most companies shifting their available lines to higher resolution sets. The great thing about a 1080p standardized format is that it maximized your TV today, and most likely your TV tomorrow - all without having to upgrade your player.
Originally Posted by go
As for the actual price - as already stated, clearly that wasn't enough for HD DVD to win over consumer support - was it? I think people look at VALUE in more relative terms than just the sticker price on the box.
BTW . . . it's funny that you mention DVD as being in 480p. How many years after DVD made it's debut did it take for YOU to have a progressive scan player? We're not even touching upscaling players yet.
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January 6th, 2008, 11:57 PM #75
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January 7th, 2008, 03:10 AM #77
Just came across this helpful site for people looking to buy more BD movies. Reminder, AVC codec is the best one for quality and MPEG2 is the worst. Chances are the movies released in MPEG2 will be re-released in the future.
January 7th, 2008, 03:35 AM #78
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