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    There should be some intriguing options available even at the 29th overall slot this year. Prospects like David Pastrnak (RW/LW) and Jack Dougherty (D) might be considerations at that position but I'm personally hoping Nikita Scherbak (RW) falls to us there or we move up for Kasperi Kapanen (RW). Also, while there are some other attractive bloodline names like Nylander, Lemieux, MacInnis, and maybe even Audette, I'm hoping Dean Lombardi considers Ryan Donato (C). Sonny Milano (LW), who was profiled earlier in this thread, is another promising prospect with impressive high-end skills who should avoid the Rob Schremp career path under the Kings' developmental system.

    Given DL's history of not selecting top high school prospects, I hope he isn't neglecting them for consideration, especially when you consider the respective successes of recent former prep draftees like Chris Kreider, Ryan McDonagh, and Nick Leddy. I guess it makes sense given the relatively little exposure these type of candidates get and the lack of competition they usually face, but the payoff seems like it could be bigger depending on what developmental program (both minors and pro) they continue on to. However, I'm not necessarily advocating spending more resources into exploring high school talent, but rather investigating further into each class's top prep prospect or three to determine their worthiness for consideration.

    While I wasn't high on Neddy myself, I was actually hoping the Kings would have moved up from their 35th overall position in the second round of the 2009 Draft to get Kreider, but alas, the Rangers took him 19th overall while Leddy went to Minnesota at 16th overall. The Kings didn't make out too badly that year coming away with both Brayden Schenn with the 5th overall pick and Kyle Clifford with the aforementioned second-round selection. Also, I was high on McDonagh but admittedly surprised to see him go 12th overall to the Canadiens in the Thomas Hickey draft of 2007. Subsequently, I've heard previously that Lombardi was in exploratory discussions with the Rangers in order to acquire Kreider within the past two years.

    In any case, I'm not as high on Donato as I was on Kreider or McDonagh, but he still sounds like an intriguing sleeper based on a couple of publication profiles. Ideally, the Kings would nab him in the second round to eventually put into our developmental pipeline, but given that it's basically an early third-round pick if we even keep it, it doesn't look likely that he'll be available past our late first-rounder.

    The Hockey News 2014 Draft Preview


    McKeen's 2014 NHL Draft Guide
    Delivered a fantastic season as the highest scoring prep forward for the second consecutive year ..committed to Harvard where he will play for his father/Coach Ted an NHL veteran of 13 years .. average in size and stature, Donato plays at a controlled, aggressive pace and is not afraid to get his nose dirty .. finds ways to exploit seams, sidestepping defenders, the gifted stick handler has excellent 1 on 1 skills .. possess strong vision with the puck however can be prone at times to playing individualistic game.. skating lacks an explosive element but he has tremendous balance and is extremely agile .. flashed his skills including his lightning quick release in a stand out performance at the All American Top Prospects game.. wields a very hard and heavy shot than can sting a goalie and produce a juicy rebound .. a tad under-sized and needs to focus on his consistency away from the puck especially below his own blue line .. played a ton of minutes this season and even though competitors focused on him constantly he still managed to produce alarming numbers and single handily took his team to semi-finals of the Small School Championships.
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    Great find on Donato, Ranma. Will update OP tomorrow (hopefully) when I get access to my laptop again.

    Which is part of the reason I've put little up. I hope to crank a couple more out before Friday.

    I was watching old draft videos, and this draft reminds me of the 2010 draft. Lombardi was talking about the lack of movement in the draft as a whole, and Lombardi mentioned how kids are rated all over by several teams, that teams just kind of expect players to fall to them.

    I think we may see a lot of teams standing pat, especially after the top 10. Players seem to have quite a difference in how teams look at them. Whereas in the top tenish, you have some consensus top picks like Bennett, Ekblad, Reinhart, Nylander, Dal Colle, Ehlers, Draisaitl, Virtanen, Ritchie, and possibly Kapanen. The top ten is a toss up, so we may see a lot of movement there.

    With the success of the Kings lately, and the relative young age of the corps, we may see them "buck the trend" and draft a high schooler like Donato, but I just don't know how much they put in to scouting the lesser leagues. There's always a chance, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranma View Post
    I guess I misread the depth of this draft in relation to next year's class and looking at the top prospects for 2015, it makes sense that that class would be deeper. However, I thought the Kings owed Columbus a second-round selection either this year or next year. I thought the third-rounder was only if the Kings did not advance past the first round of this year's playoffs and if Gaborik didn't re-sign. Since the Kings obviously satisfied the first component, it doesn't matter whether Gaborik re-signs with us in terms of the draft pick compensation.

    Sorry for the trouble but I have yet to find a solid answer on this from the sources I've looked at. Thanks for your legwork.
    Not a problem at all. This is what I'm getting from the various sources:
    - tsn.ca has Gaborik's profile as being acquired for Matt Frattin, a conditional 2014 OR 2015 2nd round pick, AND a conditional 2014 3rd round pick.
    - prosportstransactions.com lists it as: Matt Frattin, 2014 OR 2015 2nd round pick (Kings option), 2014 OR 2015 conditional pick (2nd round pick if Kings advance to 2nd round OR Gaborik re-signs, ELSE 3rd)
    - nhl.com says it is Gaborik, a 2nd, and a 3rd (which turns into a 2nd if the Kings advance to the 2nd round or if Gaborik re-signs).

    So... at face value, it SEEMS like the Kings should be paying their 2014 2nd round pick. But... with the way it's worded, why couldn't the Kings just choose to pay with the 2014 2nd round pick, which would cancel out the conditional third round pick? Kinda unclear wording. I have yet to see a good official explanation as to why the Kings get to pick at 60 instead of 63. Ultimately, it looks like the Kings acquired Gaborik for Frattin, a 2nd round pick, and the 63rd overall pick
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    I think one "trend" I'd like to see continue is drafting kids that "can't skate" or "don't have that extra burst" because, as we've seen a couple times now, they can teach that. Stick with the high-motor, high-IQ, great hands kids and let the trainers do the rest.

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    Bob MacKenzie released his prospects ranking, which is basically a compilation of rankings from scouts. He also lists how the independent scouting services rank them.

    2014 Final TSN Draft Ranking: 1-15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvie View Post
    I think one "trend" I'd like to see continue is drafting kids that "can't skate" or "don't have that extra burst" because, as we've seen a couple times now, they can teach that. Stick with the high-motor, high-IQ, great hands kids and let the trainers do the rest.
    I want Moar Big Strapping Bodies! Beef that can hit and work the boards.

    Lemieux's kid may be right in our wheelhouse.
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    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I want Moar Big Strapping Bodies! Beef that can hit and work the boards.
    Me? I want young Wayne Simmonds 2.0. Physically not there, but lots there to work with. Value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvie View Post
    Me? I want young Wayne Simmonds 2.0. Physically not there, but lots there to work with. Value.
    I've always wanted the beef. You can't teach or coach size.

    A little story. I was at the original draft party long ago, the year we took Jokinen. There was one guy I had circled left on my list before we picked at 15, and they took Matt Zultek, I was one of the only two people that jumped up and screamed. It was awesome!

    Then, he never signed, was redrafted by the Bruins 2 years later, and never played one shift in the NHL.

    Lombardi and his staff find the diamonds in the rough, the players that have warts that teams shy away from, and he's willing to take a bit of risk if that upside is there.
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Brendan Lemieux looks like a nice fit.
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    More centers, goalies, and defensemen... never enough defensemen!
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