52 names on the Stanley Cup (+1)

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Originally Posted by gescom

why?

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I'm pretty sure I made my position clear already.

Loktionov should have his name on the Stanley Cup, not Nancy. Plain and simple.

Westy and Drewiske got their names on the Cup because they were on the NHL roster full time, even if they were healthy scratches most of the time. Yes, Lokti played in more games than the other 2, but he also bounced between Manchester and the Kings. That's why his name didn't get put on the Cup. End of story. As for Phil Anschutz's wife, you could argue about her name being on the Cup till the cows come home.

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Originally Posted by gescom

Why should Loktionov be on the cup? I could swear i said i thought that of those three, he was the odd man out.

And, aren't Bob And Jim employed by Fox Sports?

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Originally Posted by gescom

i don't know who was petitioned for and who wasn't... that's neither here nor there.

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Of course it's relevant (at least to me). We know for a fact that the team petitioned for DD and Westy -- they wouldn't have their names on the Cup otherwise. Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm curious whether the team petitioned for Lokti and, if so, on what basis the league said no. Or, if the team didn't petition for him, I'd be curious to know why.

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Originally Posted by gescom

you wanna talk seventh defenseman precedent, and whether or not the precedent is that Drewiske should not have been included? look at Bryan Muir. traded to Colorado in 2001, played 8 regular season games and 3 playoff games (NONE in the Finals) en-route to the Stanley Cup... the seventh defenseman.

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Seems to me that's excellent precedent for Lokti. What's the difference between "seventh defenseman" and "thirteenth forward"?

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Originally Posted by gescom

and which non-player do YOU omit, and can you give reason for such... outside of making room for Loktionov?

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I could come up with at least half a dozen people who, in my subjective opinion, are less worthy, but your question about reasoning makes no sense. If the decision were in my hands, the question would never even come up because I would select the deserving players first -- in this case the 24 players who made it plus Lokti -- and then fill in the remaining 27 spots with non-players. In other words, it wouldn't be an issue of Lokti v. non-player X; it would be an issue of whether non-player X, non-player Y, or non-player Z gets the final spot. Of course, I'm basing this completely on Lokti's role as it is publicly known. Maybe he's an a-hole who never works hard in practice. Maybe, as the list was being prepared, he agent was making threats about jumping to the KHL and not reporting to Manchester if assigned. Those things certainly would influence whether I would petition on his behalf.

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Originally Posted by BeachHockey

Westy and Drewiske got their names on the Cup because they were on the NHL roster full time, even if they were healthy scratches most of the time. Yes, Lokti played in more games than the other 2, but he also bounced between Manchester and the Kings. That's why his name didn't get put on the Cup. End of story.

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No, that's your GUESS why his name isn't on the Cup, but that explanation makes no sense in light of Ryan Muir in 2001.

wow. just, wow.

This is funny. Loktionov is an AHLer right now. Did not see him do anythign to get his name on the cup.

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Originally Posted by mitchrock

This is funny. Loktionov is an AHLer right now. Did not see him do anythign to get his name on the cup.

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not even... he opted to play in the KHL rather than Manchester - a decision he made prior to the lockout.

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Originally Posted by mitchrock

Did not see him do anythign to get his name on the cup.

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He played in games the Kings won during the playoffs.


As for his attitude or commitment to the organization (re: KHL vs AHL).... I don't think that should be enough to negate his contribution (however slim) to winning the Cup.