21LikesPer Penner tweet, six fractures and metal plates being put in.
Sounds ugly.
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I'd agree if the players had gone on strike. But they most assuredly did NOT. The owners are the ones who shut down the league and are refusing to conduct business upon whom a fair number of people rely for livelihoods. I'm pretty sure that if the opportunity existed for all the players to get paying gigs playing somewhere close to home, most would. But there are problems with logistics, as well as limited jobs available.Originally Posted by headoffat
Hmm, I don't see how anyone can be on the owners side. The owners' obstructionist tactics smack of a certain political party in the U.S. It's like a child not wanting to do something and just going limp, forcing their parent to drag them along.I don't see how anyone can be on the players side in this dispute...even the players themselves
(Edited to be less specific about said political party.)
They still have the right to unionize for collective bargaining purposes and what not. I'm just saying that having a union is probably less important in pro sports than it is for other jobs when the income being made is a lot less.
Guys don't go play in other leagues during the NHL off-season because 1) it's the off-season for pretty much every other hockey league out there and 2) they're not going to play hockey year round, like they would be if they were playing in the NHL and then some other league in the summer.
In theory, yes they could all decide to work out on their own and stay in shape, even do things like scrimmages, but that's also hard to do with players living around the United States and Canada. That said, there's nothing like actually playing in games to stay in shape for those games. Why do you think there are things like training camp, pre-season games, and conditioning assignments to the minor leagues. It's to make sure they're all in game shape. That's something you're not going to get by going to the gym every day and skating a couple of times a week.
IF a season gets under way, it's going to be something like a week to 10 days top training camp. Those players that have been playing are going to have an advantage. I understand the worry about players getting hurt, and I hope Martinez makes a quick recovery. But they can still get hurt working out off the ice or skating on their own or with a few other NHLers, without playing overseas. I remember an off-season where Lappy needed hernia surgery coming into camp because he got hurt working out in the summer. If players are scrimmaging with each other, they can take a puck in the face just like Martinez did in a game. Guys in Canada or back east could slip on some ice and fall and get hurt that way. The only way they'd be 100% is if they move into a plastic bubble.
That part about getting hurt off the ice reminds me of some time back when an nhl goalie (can't remember who or teams involved now) was traded to a different team. When he arrived at the destination, broke his ankle stepping off of the bus. Then there's Sakic and his yard accident. Many players get themselves into trouble when not playing so, your point is well taken.
I'm still steamed at both sides for this present mess.
Yep, there are plenty of incidents in all sports where players have gotten hurt off the field doing stupid things, like stabbing themselves when trying to open DVDs or trying to do wheelies on their motorcycles. Is the potential less for injuries if you're not playing somewhere? Probably. But there's no fail-safe way of avoiding injuries, freak accidents, or doing stupid things to yourself.That part about getting hurt off the ice reminds me of some time back when an nhl goalie (can't remember who or teams involved now) was traded to a different team. When he arrived at the destination, broke his ankle stepping off of the bus. Then there's Sakic and his yard accident. Many players get themselves into trouble when not playing so, your point is well taken.
I'm still steamed at both sides for this present mess.
I think everyone is mad at both sides right now.
Yeah, yeah.
In this case, it was a Kings players getting hurt which could impact his play WHEN they start playing NHL hockey again.
And I saw the tweet about it right as it was posted.
I wanted to be the first to post here about it.
Makes me feel like a winner.
I get all that im just saying that a union is supposed to stand unified with one another. All im saying as far as as working out etc. Is that they would all be at the same disadvantage if they all were not playing if both sides get thier **** together and act like ****ing adults and we get some sort of season going here. I understand that freak things happen in sports believe me i know that. But its about limiting the opportunity for things to happen.They still have the right to unionize for collective bargaining purposes and what not. I'm just saying that having a union is probably less important in pro sports than it is for other jobs when the income being made is a lot less.
Guys don't go play in other leagues during the NHL off-season because 1) it's the off-season for pretty much every other hockey league out there and 2) they're not going to play hockey year round, like they would be if they were playing in the NHL and then some other league in the summer.
In theory, yes they could all decide to work out on their own and stay in shape, even do things like scrimmages, but that's also hard to do with players living around the United States and Canada. That said, there's nothing like actually playing in games to stay in shape for those games. Why do you think there are things like training camp, pre-season games, and conditioning assignments to the minor leagues. It's to make sure they're all in game shape. That's something you're not going to get by going to the gym every day and skating a couple of times a week.
IF a season gets under way, it's going to be something like a week to 10 days top training camp. Those players that have been playing are going to have an advantage. I understand the worry about players getting hurt, and I hope Martinez makes a quick recovery. But they can still get hurt working out off the ice or skating on their own or with a few other NHLers, without playing overseas. I remember an off-season where Lappy needed hernia surgery coming into camp because he got hurt working out in the summer. If players are scrimmaging with each other, they can take a puck in the face just like Martinez did in a game. Guys in Canada or back east could slip on some ice and fall and get hurt that way. The only way they'd be 100% is if they move into a plastic bubble.
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