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    Quote Originally Posted by gobigred View Post
    Makes more sense if you ask me...detroit being in the west didnt make sense anymore


    NHL realignment proposal adds playoff wild cards, drops league to 4 divisions, source says - ESPN

    Pacific Division
    Anaheim
    Calgary
    Edmonton
    Los Angeles
    Phoenix
    San Jose
    Vancouver


    Mid-West Division
    Chicago
    Colorado
    Dallas
    Minnesota
    Nashville
    St. Louis
    Winnipeg


    Central Division
    Boston
    Buffalo
    Detroit
    Florida
    Montreal
    Ottawa
    Tampa Bay
    Toronto


    Atlantic Division
    Carolina
    Columbus
    New Jersey
    New York Islanders
    New York Rangers
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Washington
    can u put this on a map for me? im a visual learner.

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    IMO, playoffs should be top 4 in each conference, or division, or whatever they wanna call them. If you are going to have 3 teams from each then 2 wild card teams with best record, etc...then just get rid of the divisions, have all 14 or 16 teams in one division and take the top 8.

    Although if we have to have wild cards, I guess only 2 is better than having the top team in each division make it and then have the next 6 be wild card teams.

    Also, the fact that the league has moved Detroit because they have been requesting it, f((k Detroit!!!!!!!!

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    The wildcard system is there so you don't have a 4th place team in a division making the playoffs with a worse record than the 5th place team in the other division. Imagine, if you will, Division X 4th place team has 82 pts, while 5th place team in Division Y has 94. Which team deserves to sit out? It wasn't uncommon in the pre-conference playoffs days.

    Of course, that's what gave us the Miracle on Manchester, since the Kings were lucky to make the playoffs and only did because the Colorado Rockies had the worst record in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Hockey 2.0 View Post
    can u put this on a map for me? im a visual learner.
    Google image search "NHL teams map."


    The "Pacific" (Smythe) and "Midwest" (Norris) divisions mostly make sense. The "Central" division does not. I would do it this way:

    Smythe
    Kings
    SJ
    Anaheim
    Phoenix
    Vancouver
    Calgary
    Edmonton

    Norris
    Colorado
    Dallas
    Winnipeg
    Minnesota
    St. Louis
    Nashville
    Chicago
    Columbus

    Patrick
    Detroit
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Washington
    Carolina
    Tampa Bay
    Florida

    Adams
    New Jersey
    NYR
    NYI
    Boston
    Buffalo
    Montreal
    Ottawa
    Toronto


    This would have 15 teams in each "conference," which I think makes more sense than a 16/14 split (although I haven't thought about how it might impact scheduling).

    I don't know that I really care whether the playoffs are top 3 in each division plus 2 wildcards or top 4 in each division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fropitar
    Think teams will lose money?
    It would be nice to see all the teams over the course of the a season but at the same time, if I had _____ amount of money for single game seats.. Who the hell wants to use that money on games vs half of those teams?
    I don't think too many teams will care because they already have ___ amount of season tickets sold. If anything, being able to see teams from the other conference will be enough for them to sell out those games.

    Then as for division rivals, worst case scenario, teams can use those nights as promotional giveaway nights to put butts in seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4/10/82 View Post
    The wildcard system is there so you don't have a 4th place team in a division making the playoffs with a worse record than the 5th place team in the other division. Imagine, if you will, Division X 4th place team has 82 pts, while 5th place team in Division Y has 94. Which team deserves to sit out? It wasn't uncommon in the pre-conference playoffs days.
    Which is why I didn't like it. It happened TOO often.

    Basically, I like the idea of realignment in general. But I've never cared for the division playoff thing as I think it a fairer system to re-seed after each round. So I guess the wild-card thing is a compromise. I suppose even if they just went with the top 4 teams in each I could live with it....I'd be unhappy but what are ya gonna do?

    HOWEVER, the bad part of all of this by FAR is the implication of expansion. IMO, the NHL has NO BUSINESS whatsoever in creating more teams. I've heard it's the "reality" of the situation. To me it just laughable...and a money grab. The league has a good number of teams who aren't stable presently (more than they'll admit) and they want to EXPAND? That is just absurd.

    So ultimately we get a watered down regular season, a repetitive playoff and ultimately 50 new minor-league quality players to join the NHL. Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcheck View Post
    Go to the old division names: Norris, Adams, Patrick, Smythe
    If the NHL were to go back to having the division names I think they would go with more updated names, somebody who the casual fan will recognize. If they do that, with LA and Edmonton in the same division, I would imagine that we would end up in the Gretzky division.

    All that being said, my guess is that the NHL is going to keep the division names geographically based.

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    How the hell are Boston, Montreal, Ottawa, Florida, and Tampa Bay in a Central Division?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenA07 View Post
    If the NHL were to go back to having the division names I think they would go with more updated names, somebody who the casual fan will recognize. If they do that, with LA and Edmonton in the same division, I would imagine that we would end up in the Gretzky division.

    All that being said, my guess is that the NHL is going to keep the division names geographically based.
    I would like to see these division names: Howe, Gretzky, Orr, and Lemieux.
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    Sad to not have Detroit in our conference.....other than that, seems like it is set up based on $$ to me and potential "national" TV broadcasts that we all know are tilted to the East Coast anyway. That Midwest division? Who will watch any of those teams other than Chicago (till they lose their lustre)?
    Glad to see Columbus out of the West.

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