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    Ha, lo and behold detailed info about the amnesty buyouts. I had wanted to know about that and had asked in another thread. Then ran across a post at thescore.com wehere somebody was asking the same question. And here we go:

    COMPLIANCE BUYOUTS
    Teams will be allowed up to two buyouts over the next two summers -- 2013 and 2014 -- either one in each summer or two in one summer and none in the other. The new detail here that I found interesting is that any player bought out under these circumstances CANNOT be re-acquired by that same team during the upcoming season, not by waivers, not by trade and not by free-agent signing.

    Obvious reason here: league doesn’t want teams to cheat the system and get a player back under a cheaper salary (since the buyout doesn’t count against the salary cap).
    Thanks for posting.

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    Default For the CBA Geekoids....

    In short, stay the **** away from Roberto Luongo.
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    Obviously those are condensed versions of what the final CBA language is going to be, but the part that talks about retaining salary in trade could see multi-team trades getting hammered out in the future depending on how the wording and the clauses are all strung together.

    Using ESPN's example and the rules they discussed, if Toronto trades Mike Komisarek (4.5 cap hit / 3.5 salary) to the Islanders and keep 1/2 the cap hit and salary then the Islanders will get him for 2.25 cap hit / 1.75 salary. But then say the Islanders (if they're allowed to) then turn around and trade him to Florida. That could mean the Panthers could get Komisarek for 1.125 cap hit and 875,000 in salary.

    You could start seeing a bunch of deals where compensation goes to facilitating teams to allow for all kinds of deals to chop up the cost of expensive players by 1/2 with each team they manage to involve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Obviously those are condensed versions of what the final CBA language is going to be, but the part that talks about retaining salary in trade could see multi-team trades getting hammered out in the future depending on how the wording and the clauses are all strung together.

    Using ESPN's example and the rules they discussed, if Toronto trades Mike Komisarek (4.5 cap hit / 3.5 salary) to the Islanders and keep 1/2 the cap hit and salary then the Islanders will get him for 2.25 cap hit / 1.75 salary. But then say the Islanders (if they're allowed to) then turn around and trade him to Florida. That could mean the Panthers could get Komisarek for 1.125 cap hit and 875,000 in salary.

    You could start seeing a bunch of deals where compensation goes to facilitating teams to allow for all kinds of deals to chop up the cost of expensive players by 1/2 with each team they manage to involve.
    Trade deadline is going to be absolutely nuts. Can't wait.
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    Kings are gonna get screwed with the Luongo Clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyTOarson View Post
    Kings are gonna get screwed with the Luongo Clause.
    We have no circumvention contracts to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Obviously those .... team they manage to involve.
    I'm VERY curious on the wording of these clauses... There's a whole whock-o-donkey that could happen with this..
    Last edited by sweatypickle; January 7th, 2013 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweatypickle View Post
    We have no circumvention contracts to worry about.
    From the article: "The new rule in this tentative agreement is different. Now, for any contract in excess of six years, both teams involved in a trade on a contract like Luongo’s would be penalized if he retired before the end of his deal...

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    And obviously, if players under these back-diving deals are never traded, but retire before the end of their deals (Marian Hossa in Chicago), their current teams get charged the cap savings spread evenly over the remaining years of the deal."

    I don't see any way the Quick, Richards, and Carter contracts DON'T fall subject to that clause.
    Last edited by keyTOarson; January 7th, 2013 at 10:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweatypickle View Post
    We have no circumvention contracts to worry about.
    Correct but Jeff Carter has 10 more seasons left on his contract. He's already 28 years old. There's little chance he's still playing the entire length of his deal.

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