Thread: Does Bernier start tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Bojanglz

Not saying Quick is the problem and I wouldn't say he has been garbage all year but how many goalies continue to play an elite status once they get the big bucks and contracts? I can only think of a few. Most have ended up traded to 3+ different teams, benched, sent to the minors, etc. Quick has been amazing every year until this contract happened. That's why imo I wouldn't tie up a huge contract for long years on a goalie. I would do 4-5 tops. That is just me though and I am not saying trade Quick or call for his head because I think he will still play amazing. It is just the whole team is sucking right now.

Quick's recovery from off-season back surgery can't be discounted either. Like the rest of the team, it may take him a while to get back to the level he was at during the regular season last year. As for the playoff level he played at, as has been mentioned previously, he may never get back to that again, as few goalies in the history of hockey have ever played at that level.

Originally Posted by hockeymariner88

...... Do i expect bernier to come out and be the savior? .....

wwjbd

Originally Posted by P.I.T.A.

Hiya taz. Well, there wasn't really much to talk about around here during the off season, and I'm medicated now, so my anger isn't as easily triggered anymore. So usually when I do come here, I don't really feel like responding much to the mindless nonsense. Mainly because it's like trying to describe abstract art to blind children who have no knowledge of the subject at hand, prior or otherwise. I had hoped that something in that cup run would have given way to understanding of things like team dynamic, defensive assignments, and the value of veterans other than tangible stats. But, it hasn't. And it won't.

Edit: if there were a secret room, my ass would most certainly not have access to it, LOL.

Just out of curiosity, is this a general statement or a response to this thread in particular?

Cause honestly I don't see how suggesting such a common idea as starting the B/U goalie on the 2nd night of a road back-to-back leads to lamenting a general lack of fundamental hockey knowledge and declarations of "mindless nonsense".

We have all these things like the value of veterans and TEAM DYNAMICS, do these concepts apply to Quick as well? Or is he untouchable? Perhaps I'm just not reading the subtext very well.

"Can I buy a vowel Pat" If I remember correctly, Quick just recently beat them 4 straight. The way Bernier looked the last time he played, no!

Originally Posted by Pretty Vivid

Is there a door #3?

Where's the Bernier > Quick crew?

Originally Posted by jccawdrey

"Can I buy a vowel Pat" If I remember correctly, Quick just recently beat them 4 straight. The way Bernier looked the last time he played, no!

Bernier was also coming off the bench cold, I don't think it's fair to hold that one game against him. Who knows how many goals Quick would have let in that night had he stayed in after letting in 2 on 3 shots.

What I don't understand is, according to some none of the Kings struggles are Quick's fault. It's all the defense in front of him and the lack of scoring. Yet Bernier goes in, and all of a sudden it becomes his fault that he gave up a bunch of goals (most of them down a man). Why the double standard, how does that work?

Perhaps I'll ask the question another way: Who believes that Quick should start every single game of every season he's a LA King, regardless of the circumstance, unless he's injured?

Has an NHL goalie every started every single one of his teams games in a season before? I honestly don't know...

Originally Posted by Lordmasterdeath

Where's the Bernier > Quick crew?

LOL there's really such a crew?

This being the internet, I guess I should have realized that this question would have gotten blown way out of proportion. All I was asking is, is it reasonable to give him ONE NIGHT off? I think so.

And just remember people the kid hasn't started a game in almost a year so cut him some slack tonight.

Originally Posted by Peggy_GKG

Bernier was also coming off the bench cold, I don't think it's fair to hold that one game against him. Who knows how many goals Quick would have let in that night had he stayed in after letting in 2 on 3 shots.

What I don't understand is, according to some none of the Kings struggles are Quick's fault. It's all the defense in front of him and the lack of scoring. Yet Bernier goes in, and all of a sudden it becomes his fault that he gave up a bunch of goals (most of them down a man). Why the double standard, how does that work?

Perhaps I'll ask the question another way: Who believes that Quick should start every single game of every season he's a LA King, regardless of the circumstance, unless he's injured?

Has an NHL goalie every started every single one of his teams games in a season before? I honestly don't know...

For your last question, yes, but the last one to do it was Glenn Hall in the early 60's.

I can think of a few that have started or played in over 70 games. Kiprusoff, Brodeur, and I think Roy.