Thread: I hate to say it, but Doc was right.

Originally Posted by roenick

Someone mentioned inserting Gagne into Penner's spot and then moving Clifford up to the second line to inject some energy into that line. Gagne fills Clifford's spot on 4th line. It is a big deal to jack with the 4th line's chemistry right now as it is the only line working but they have to get something out of the first and second line. That first line will come around soon - last night they had a decent cycle going a couple of times and Kopitar will get his timing back soon. It is the second line that needs to get moving and they have to inject some energy there somehow.

Isn't it just a little scary that the 1st and 2nd lines have a collective $27,897,727 in cap hit with 3,320 NHL games played and they need some 21 year old 4th liner being paid $875,000 with all of 159 NHL games under his belt to play hard for a full game?

only players doing anything right now is the players that played in the AHL/ECHL.. they should have been able to send the whole team down to the farm during lockout. Last night everytime cliffy was on the ice I just thought GIVE HIM THE PUCK! top 9 need to wake the eff up.

sidenote: why did they sit gagne out last night?

Originally Posted by Birdman

Clifford and Nolan go no where.

On another topic, somebody wake up King and Penner please.

So did somebody say that Clifford and Nolan wouldn't make the team? Silly.

Oh my was Penner bad again last night! He needs to wake up quickly with Richardson and Gagne watching from the PB. One thing I noticed that made me uneasy was the amount of odd number attacks the Avs were getting. Too many 3 on 2's. The forwards have got to be smarter and minimize this like they did last season. As someone earlier mentioned in a nutshell: Game 1: ****ty. Game 2: Better, but still needs improvement. The top 6 needs to find the back of net tomorrow night.

To bad we don't have our 1st round pick this year.

For all the crap people give him, I think Doughty has looked great so far this year. I think he has been a bright spot in the first two games.

We're still sticking it to the Flyers, so there's that.

Penner is in mid season form....the problem is we need him to be in post season form.

Originally Posted by jt

It's like people forgot how bad this team was during the regular season.

They weren't bad from the end of March through to the playoffs, where they lost only 5 games.

Originally Posted by jt

I don't know why anyone expects anything different out of Penner. He is who he is and he's been this guy since he left Anaheim. Same with Carter...he might score 25 goals but I bet half will be meaningless.

Parts of the last 2 games, he was fine.

Originally Posted by roenick

Someone mentioned inserting Gagne into Penner's spot and then moving Clifford up to the second line to inject some energy into that line. Gagne fills Clifford's spot on 4th line. It is a big deal to jack with the 4th line's chemistry right now as it is the only line working but they have to get something out of the first and second line. That first line will come around soon - last night they had a decent cycle going a couple of times and Kopitar will get his timing back soon. It is the second line that needs to get moving and they have to inject some energy there somehow.

The first period, and a good chunk of the 2nd, we had all 4 lines rolling and spent the majority of the period in their zone cycling, grabbing turnovers, and hemming them in their end, and that included Penner.

We will see - but they need to get up early on a young Edmo team to dishearten them a bit - just like the Sharks did last night - and get a W. I would never say "must win" but this next game is as close as it gets. They need to get a winning attitude going again and they can't afford to fall too far behind a determined SJ and (dare I say it) ANA squads.

Its not a must win by any means.

Originally Posted by jt

Isn't it just a little scary that the 1st and 2nd lines have a collective $27,897,727 in cap hit with 3,320 NHL games played and they need some 21 year old 4th liner being paid $875,000 with all of 159 NHL games under his belt to play hard for a full game?

Even the 3rd and 4th lines were suspect for the 1st 10 minutes of the 3rd.

why did they sit gagne out last night?

Where would you have played him? Instead of Penner.