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    Actually, from a statistical standpoint, the Kings have been more unlucky than flat out bad. Kopitar for some reason got a lot of flack after the Ducks game from some people, but he was actually fantastic, being on the ice for 7 scoring chances for and 0 against (not to mention the goals produced by the first line). Up front, the 4th line was terrible, giving up 3 goals against.

    The Kings lost that game because of uncharacteristic poor penalty killing and goaltending. The Ducks had 9 high quality scoring shots and scored on 4 of them (Kings vs. Ducks: Report Card and Stat Breakdown - Jewels From The Crown). That's pretty unacceptable, but it's also kind of just a freak thing that happens on rare occasion.

    As Aaron mentioned, their PDO is third to last in the league, and considering how the Kings have been rather dominant in driving the play and with puck possession, their PDO will inevitably veer closer to 1. And let's be realistic, the Kings aren't going to shoot at 7% and stop the puck 87.9% of the time. Both numbers will trend up.

    This is just kind of how sports work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice24 View Post
    unfortunately they will not be a surprise to the other playoff teams as the 8th seed.
    So what? Do you really think they won the Cup last year because they were taken lightly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojanglz View Post
    No offense but the Kool-Aid is flowing hard in this post. Not sure what games you are watching but the Kings are once again 2nd to last in scoring with a whopping 16 goals. Worst PP also. They are NOT doing the things to win games and not being unlucky at all. The team is flat out playing like crap. I don't care how good they did last year in the playoffs because you can never win the cup if you don't make the playoffs and with a shorten season, EVERY game is important. But they are playing exactly how they started last year and unfortunately there is no forgiveness this year of taking 60 games to turn it around.
    You literally responded with gibberish considering what aaron posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBrown33 View Post
    Actually, from a statistical standpoint, the Kings have been more unlucky than flat out bad. Kopitar for some reason got a lot of flack after the Ducks game from some people, but he was actually fantastic, being on the ice for 7 scoring chances for and 0 against (not to mention the goals produced by the first line). Up front, the 4th line was terrible, giving up 3 goals against.

    The Kings lost that game because of uncharacteristic poor penalty killing and goaltending. The Ducks had 9 high quality scoring shots and scored on 4 of them (Kings vs. Ducks: Report Card and Stat Breakdown - Jewels From The Crown). That's pretty unacceptable, but it's also kind of just a freak thing that happens on rare occasion.

    As Aaron mentioned, their PDO is third to last in the league, and considering how the Kings have been rather dominant in driving the play and with puck possession, their PDO will inevitably veer closer to 1. And let's be realistic, the Kings aren't going to shoot at 7% and stop the puck 87.9% of the time. Both numbers will trend up.

    This is just kind of how sports work.
    Weird. Common sense and intelligent analysis. Them things rare 'round these parts.

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    Until Saturday, the Kings played ONE bad period of defensive hockey (more like five bad minutes) against Colorado since the banner raising... and that's it. WITHOUT Greene and Mitchell. I'm not remotely concerned yet. If more games start looking like Saturday's, we'll talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice24 View Post
    That was 8 months ago.
    yes.
    But they are performing similarly, just the results have changed. I would be much more worried if they were performing differently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bojanglz View Post
    No offense but the Kool-Aid is flowing hard in this post. Not sure what games you are watching but the Kings are once again 2nd to last in scoring with a whopping 16 goals. Worst PP also. They are NOT doing the things to win games and not being unlucky at all. The team is flat out playing like crap. I don't care how good they did last year in the playoffs because you can never win the cup if you don't make the playoffs and with a shorten season, EVERY game is important. But they are playing exactly how they started last year and unfortunately there is no forgiveness this year of taking 60 games to turn it around.
    This doesn't cover special teams, which have lifted a few teams to very hot starts. (SJ, TB) Those aberrations won't last. How statistically meaningful is a 48 game schedule vs. an 82 game one? I'll look it up. But just how meaningful are 4 7 game series?
    The point is, the process remains in place. A winning one. With positive variance (RANGZ) comes negative (ZOMG WE SUCK AT 2-3-2)

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    i have noticed that we hit alot of posts. i don't have any sort of stat to back this up...but it seems that almost every game we do it at least once. and not that outside of the post crap. dead on , hit the post...stopped a sweet sweet kings goal hit the post. i dont know if they even track hit posts.....i believe they dont even count as a SOG. im a bit worried about our defense.....muzzin looks down right lost at times. pairing scuderi and doughty seems odd, since they are clearly our two best....and for the love of god keep scuds off the pp....its like he's scared of the puck. You better believe other teams know he's going to dish to doughty 95% of the time from the point.
    all in all , the kings play well MOST of the time....and am confident we can get this poor start turned around !

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    We're Kings fans. We know the score. We've been here many times. We wish for the ultimate and it finally happened. Either we go back to tortured souls or the Kings can creep up the standing to the playoffs and go on a tear. I'm for one having fun watching where it all goes.
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    TBrown,
    any info you can share on how and where scoring chances and shot data can be found is appreciated. TOI is down afaik.
    Thanks for the links.


    key,
    thanks for the backup, and please do chime in.
    but lets try to be civil and persuade rather than denigrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbojone View Post
    i have noticed that we hit alot of posts. i don't have any sort of stat to back this up...but it seems that almost every game we do it at least once. and not that outside of the post crap. dead on , hit the post...stopped a sweet sweet kings goal hit the post. i dont know if they even track hit posts.....i believe they dont even count as a SOG.
    I really do wish hit posts were tracked. I mean, you beat the goalie, and almost scored, but it means nothing?

    But I get the feeling it would be fairly random.

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