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    Default Kings' System--Does it stifle creativity and bore the players as well as the fans?

    Well I'll tell you one thing, this whole shooting from the corners of the offensive zone with no traffic thing, sure doesn't work.

    Honestly, I've been seeing us getting pretty decent looks lately, which tells me it's not (at least entirely) the system.

    Look at who has the puck on their stick for some of these scoring chances: Lewis, Frattin, Clifford, Stoll, etc. These guys are so offensively incapable it's not even funny. So as much as it is our system, I would say it's probably just as much our personnel.
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    http://klmfk.ru/books/Ryan%20Walter....Strategies.pdf

    if anyone feels inclined to educate himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by gescom View Post
    before i opine, i want someone to explain to a hockey noob like me what system it is EXACTLY that the Kings play.

    Aaaaaaaand, how said system differs from any of the other 29 teams in the league.
    Perfect.

    Reminds me so much of...

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    Are you ****ing kidding me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gescom View Post
    before i opine, i want someone to explain to a hockey noob like me what system it is EXACTLY that the Kings play.

    Aaaaaaaand, how said system differs from any of the other 29 teams in the league.
    Me, too.

    I would guess any changes would involve getting 1 more guy deep, more often.
    I don't believe anybody plays "run & gun" anymore. Not like in the 80s, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsCourt26 View Post
    Today's game is based on the sway of momentum. Big bodies and big gear have made it so players are blocking shots and creating much more traffic in front of the net which has led to the creation of a very important stat...blocked shots.

    The King's 5-3 tonight was very telling of their style. Most teams will crash low and work on setting up a one timer from the far side of the net. The Kings, with a 2 man advantage, set up like an umbrella and forced the shots from the outside when there really was no reason to.

    I don't think the system lacks creativity as much as it's very tiresome. Offensively, the Kings have to work twice as hard as most offensively skilled teams just to yield similar results.

    When, as a forward, you have to play 200 feet of the ice and then base your offensive game on second and third chances, you're working really hard to make something happen.

    Personally, I think that's why Sutter has been forced to roll 4 lines even when the team is down in the 3rd.

    This team still needs a sniper and a legit playmaker (which Kopitar can be).

    When your top left wing turns the puck over on every break out, that 200 feet of ice becomes 400 feet of ice very quickly.


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    Good, detailed response.

    That was the kind of answer I was looking for.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gescom View Post
    you always know what to say to a lady!


    i'll answer, just in case someone tries to get lippy...


    the Kings play a very VERY slight variant of the 2-1-2.
    Just curious---How would that 2-1-2 compare to The Ducks' typical formations?
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    Default Kings' System--Does it stifle creativity and bore the players as well as the fans?

    Another thing I've noticed, is we ONLY seem to have success on the breakout when we get at least 2 forwards LOW for support getting out of our zone. Nothing is more ridiculous than watching Matt Greene, or Robyn Regehr, try a stretch pass to Jarret Stoll, or Kyle Clifford. This is not a team that can execute that with any normality.

    Aside from the X's and O's, has anyone noticed how many games we've lost when we play a particularly physical game? Because I can't think of one. It is absolutely crucial for this team to play a physical game, and not get into a run and gun who can be sexier match. Unfortunately a big part of that are guys like Dustin Brown and Mike Richards taking a season long vacation, and the coaching staff recognizing the game this team NEEDS to play to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nki View Post
    http://klmfk.ru/books/Ryan%20Walter....Strategies.pdf

    if anyone feels inclined to educate himself
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    I could always describe what players are doing, but never knew the technical descriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsCourt26 View Post
    Today's game is based on the sway of momentum. Big bodies and big gear have made it so players are blocking shots and creating much more traffic in front of the net which has led to the creation of a very important stat...blocked shots.

    The King's 5-3 tonight was very telling of their style. Most teams will crash low and work on setting up a one timer from the far side of the net. The Kings, with a 2 man advantage, set up like an umbrella and forced the shots from the outside when there really was no reason to.

    I don't think the system lacks creativity as much as it's very tiresome. Offensively, the Kings have to work twice as hard as most offensively skilled teams just to yield similar results.

    When, as a forward, you have to play 200 feet of the ice and then base your offensive game on second and third chances, you're working really hard to make something happen.

    Personally, I think that's why Sutter has been forced to roll 4 lines even when the team is down in the 3rd.

    This team still needs a sniper and a legit playmaker (which Kopitar can be).

    When your top left wing turns the puck over on every break out, that 200 feet of ice becomes 400 feet of ice very quickly.


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    I keep saying this every year and twice on Sundays. Kings pp needs to work down low , to create 2 on1 for back door passes. Don't remember last time when kings pp scored a goal like that especially on 5 on 3.
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