Thread: Loktionov traded for Devils 5th round pick

Originally Posted by AlleyAlBee

But surely we could've gotten more than a 5th, right?

I don't know if Simon Gagne could've fetched better than a 3rd/4th round draft pick..... Sure, he hasn't looked great in the system, but how much of an opportunity has he really had this year, let alone to play "his" way (which also might produce favorable results)?

And if we're giving away players for nothing (as opposed to receiving comparative value), in the long-term, I'm afraid it'll be problematic.

Originally Posted by KingFanMGM

I don't think Lombardi is managing his assets optimally, but will wait and see the results over the next 2-3 years.

AB, not sure what you believe DL could have gotten, but he has to deal in the real world and he got what he could optimally get at the time he pulled the trades. That's the cold, hard, not Fantasy Hockey truth.

KFMGM - You say that DL is not managing his assets optimally in nearly every post, but offer up no counter to what you think he should be doing. What would you do in every trade and waiver instance this year? Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I want to know what you would have done.

Westgarth trade to CAR
Hickey lost to waivers
Clune lost to waivers
Loktionov traded to NJ
Ellerby picked up in trade with FLA
Gagne traded to PHI

Loki was a strong -2 last night with a solid 9% in the FO circle. Since Loki's arrival the Devils are a strong 2-6. Loki can score because his shooting % is good. It will be interesting to see how their season plays out and into the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Stormy2213

AB, not sure what you believe DL could have gotten, but he has to deal in the real world and he got what he could optimally get at the time he pulled the trades. That's the cold, hard, not Fantasy Hockey truth.

KFMGM - You say that DL is not managing his assets optimally in nearly every post, but offer up no counter to what you think he should be doing. What would you do in every trade and waiver instance this year? Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I want to know what you would have done.

Westgarth trade to CAR
Hickey lost to waivers
Clune lost to waivers
Loktionov traded to NJ
Ellerby picked up in trade with FLA
Gagne traded to PHI

the HIckey one is the only one that hurts. and oddly enough, the one i'm fairly certain Dean didn't want to have happen.

Originally Posted by gescom

the HIckey one is the only one that hurts. and oddly enough, the one i'm fairly certain Dean didn't want to have happen.

I don't think Dean wanted to lose him either...but he had no choice but to put him on waivers. Since Thomas was clearly not going to make the Kings roster, and he can't go back to Manchester without going through waivers, Dean's hands were tied. That's not mismanagement.

Lokti wasn't going to play with the Kings either, and the entire league knew it. That Dean got anything at all for Lokti is a coup.

Originally Posted by gescom

the HIckey one is the only one that hurts. and oddly enough, the one i'm fairly certain Dean didn't want to have happen.

Originally Posted by KHenry14

I don't think Dean wanted to lose him either...but he had no choice but to put him on waivers. Since Thomas was clearly not going to make the Kings roster, and he can't go back to Manchester without going through waivers, Dean's hands were tied. That's not mismanagement.

Lokti wasn't going to play with the Kings either, and the entire league knew it. That Dean got anything at all for Lokti is a coup.

I completely agree. What I'm searching for is for somebody who will address the statement "DL is not managing his assets optimally" with their alternative scenario that isn't rooted in Fantasy Hockey. Putting Hickey on waivers falls into asset management, so I want to know what the proposed alternative would be from those deriding the Hickey loss. I've yet to see one. I think, more than anything, I'm wanting to NOT see those ridiculous posts any longer. Wishful thinking, I know.

Loki is going to be a perennial allstar. lets just admit it.

Originally Posted by Stormy2213

I completely agree. What I'm searching for is for somebody who will address the statement "DL is not managing his assets optimally" with their alternative scenario that isn't rooted in Fantasy Hockey. Putting Hickey on waivers falls into asset management, so I want to know what the proposed alternative would be from those deriding the Hickey loss. I've yet to see one. I think, more than anything, I'm wanting to NOT see those ridiculous posts any longer. Wishful thinking, I know.

I think, in regards to Hickey, people would argue that DD should have been the one to get sent down. Now, I don't know that I agree with it or not, but it's at least a reasonable suggestion. Regardless, I'm not concerned with losing Hickey or Loktionov considering what the Kings currently have. Would Hickey have replaced Voynov or Doughty? No. Martinez? Maybe?

Loktionov Toe-Drag Goal Video - NHL VideoCenter

Originally Posted by Bogey

Loktionov Toe-Drag Goal Video - NHL VideoCenter

Damn Devils and their über pro scouts.