Thread: The Mike Richards for Simmonds/Schenn/2nd Round Pick - Still Do It?

In the pic of Richards, he's rocking the red white and blue. 'Merica!

This is what happens when the hangover wears off. It will only get exponentially worse during the upcoming, protracted lockout.

Originally Posted by job

This is what happens when the hangover wears off. It will only get exponentially worse during the upcoming, protracted lockout.

Originally Posted by Kubrick

Never forget.

With Kubrick here. I loved the deal for Richards (couldn't actually believe he was made available) when it was made. This little hit on a floater/embellisher like Burrows was a resounding bell to the rest of the Western Conference that this wasn't your father's Kings team. They were not going to go quietly into the playoffs. It was also Richards notification that the Kings and he were here to play. I don't think the rest of the Conference expected this. Grit and hockey sense, in the SC Playoffs, make up for scoring. Oh and if memory serves MR had a pretty nice 2012 playoff run scoring (yup ... 15 points in 20 games, not bad) .... my man-crush on MR fully blossomed out of his Game 1 performance.

Originally Posted by AlleyAlBee

Whoa whoa, chill out! Why do all forum topics have to be "serious"? I mean, it's not life or death or fall hockey, it's summer time, absolutely nothing is going on and a lockout is on the way - we can't think about how it'd all go if that trade wasn't made?

This is off-topic and I'd hate to go down this rabbit hole, which will lead to chaos, but I'm just wondering how the Kings would've done in the playoffs without Richards.

Instead of having Mike Richards in as the second-line center, we had Jeff Carter (no slouch) as the 2C, with Penner on the LW and Simmonds on the RW, and Brayden Schenn as the 3C/4C. Not so terrible, right? If that lineup would have been disastrous in the playoffs, then that consequentially means that Mike Richards = Stanley Cup, and of course, I want the Stanley Cup! If that's the case, of course, I say we make that trade every single time.

But this whole dismissive attitude that "We don't talk about this sort of thing!" is kind of preposterous. I don't think it's anywhere near as clear-cut as some here think it is, and because reasonable minds can differ, shouldn't we be able to post about it? Really, what else are we gonna talk about?

I hear ya, but I put this topic in the same ones as....

Fire DL
Doughty Sucks, Doughty's contract sucks, We traded the wrong Dman.
Sutter is not the right coach
Brown is a 3rd liner (I said that too)
Kopitar is not an elite center
etc....

All of those people have been proven wrong on those opinions. The Cup washed away all of those. So questioning the Richards trade is not only moot, it is completely misguided. The trade worked and did exactly what it was supposed to do. There is NO way that trade could have been any better. It is not like we came one win from the Cup...

The trade was perfect.

Originally Posted by backofthenet

I hear ya, but I put this topic in the same ones as....

Fire DL
Doughty Sucks, Doughty's contract sucks, We traded the wrong Dman.
Sutter is not the right coach
Brown is a 3rd liner (I said that too)
Kopitar is not an elite center
etc....

All of those people have been proven wrong on those opinions. The Cup washed away all of those. So questioning the Richards trade is not only moot, it is completely misguided. The trade worked and did exactly what it was supposed to do. There is NO way that trade could have been any better. It is not like we came one win from the Cup...

The trade was perfect.

I've been on a few of the bandwagons above. I was for Carlyle instead of Sutter and I got a bit irritated with Brown on occasion. However, I've never thought anything but "perfect" when I heard about the Richards trade. The Kings were in the position to make the move...you do it. Timing is everything and the kind of player you get means a lot. A Mike Richards doesn't come along very often and if the Flyers are dumb enough to let him go well....you just take advantage. I thought it was a no-brainer last summer and I still do. The Carter trade was a risk but not Richards. No-brainer.

jom

Originally Posted by jom

I've been on a few of the bandwagons above. I was for Carlyle instead of Sutter and I got a bit irritated with Brown on occasion. However, I've never thought anything but "perfect" when I heard about the Richards trade. The Kings were in the position to make the move...you do it. Timing is everything and the kind of player you get means a lot. A Mike Richards doesn't come along very often and if the Flyers are dumb enough to let him go well....you just take advantage. I thought it was a no-brainer last summer and I still do. The Carter trade was a risk but not Richards. No-brainer.

jom

that thread got purged didnt it? too bad there was some interesting reactions in it. I recall my feeling was that it smelled an awful lot more like the Ziggy trade which made it a no brainer even if it was still a bit of a shock.

Originally Posted by AlleyAlBee

Instead of having Mike Richards in as the second-line center, we had Jeff Carter (no slouch) as the 2C, with Penner on the LW and Simmonds on the RW, and Brayden Schenn as the 3C/4C. Not so terrible, right? If that lineup would have been disastrous in the playoffs, then that consequentially means that Mike Richards = Stanley Cup, and of course, I want the Stanley Cup! If that's the case, of course, I say we make that trade every single time.

Except that, it's debatable that we trade for Carter at all w/o Mike Richards here in the first place. I don't want to make MR the first domino in the string leading to the cup, but a lot of things likely turn out differently without him here. If winning the Stanley Cup isn't enough reason for you though, maybe we can re-evaluate the trade again next summer.

The length of contract gave me pause for about a second, and then you relaize that you are acquiring Mike Richards. DL had to give up a lot to get him, but it was worth it. If they didn't win the Cup in 2012 they were definitely in position to contend year after year, and that's what I want from my team.