October 26th, 2012, 11:07 PM #1
A modest proposal.
We fans are powerless in this lockout. That is mostly true. However, I propose we have a national chargeback day. Many people charge the season tickets on a credit card. The Kings have offered us refunds. Very nice. However, if you use your credit card to buy something and you don't get it you get to charge them back.
Years ago Bruce McNall declared bankruptcy. Back then you had to pay in full far in advance. I called American expresss, told them about the bankruptcy and had my money back that day.
I am not advocating refunds, I am advocating chargebacks. We pick a day, and everyone calls and says give me my money back. And the credit card companies will go into the owners bank accounts and take the money back right then.
Trust me if we can take 10 million per team in one day someone will surely take notice.
October 27th, 2012, 01:48 AM #2
So.... We get our money back, then a deal gets reached, let's say November, then what? Now I've given up my seats and I don't get to see the Kings. Now AngryKing is angry. I don't like this plan one bit. One bit, I say!
October 27th, 2012, 03:07 AM #3
Don't worry, a deal isn't getting done in November...or December or January.
Originally Posted by AngryKing
October 27th, 2012, 05:58 AM #4
Actually, this is interesting, not for the charge back itself, but for the consequences to the teams if a mass charge back happens.
The merchants are required to keep charge backs below a certain percentage, if they do not there are a number of consequences, namely an increased transaction fee, the processing bank holding back funds for x number of days to cover future charge backs, penalties per charge back which normally range from $10-$30 and if the percentage gets high enough the merchant can be fined by Visa/Mastercard.
Now normally this isn't a big deal, but let's say 10% of the season ticket holders decide to charge back their tickets.
The teams would not only be looking at millions in actual refunds, but also fees and fines and going forward potential hold backs all of which mess up cash flow..... And their hands are tied, Visa/Mastercard know this, the teams HAVE to accept credit cards.
October 27th, 2012, 08:31 AM #5
Will this tactic inspire the players to negotiate off the owners' offer?
October 27th, 2012, 10:04 AM #6
I think it would be a great symbolic gesture if every venue was empty for the first day of post-lockout games. I'd love to see the TV camera angles as the network tries to minimize showing all those empty seats. It would be a large financial hit across the league, while leaving STHs the option to attend later games at their discretion.
October 27th, 2012, 11:19 AM #7
AK while I can certainly understand an appreciate your loyalty to the team. It is why we are in this situation. We has hockey fans have been taken advantage of by the both the owners and players this lockout and lockouts past. They know we are not going anywhere and we will gladly throw our money at them the day they come back. I did it the previous two times, I get it.
Originally Posted by AngryKing
Our only voice is our MONEY until the fans take a stand and hit them in the wallet, they will continue to **** on us. I will not be giving the NHL or Staples ANY of my money(except for raising the banner night) for the remainder of this season and 2014 season F THEM ALL.
October 27th, 2012, 11:41 AM #8
Fine with me if the Kings start on the road...I'm not missing the banner raising, no matter what
Originally Posted by ChilledAgua
October 27th, 2012, 12:25 PM #9
Already pulled my money for tickets. Decided the first game they made me miss was there last for the year.I'm a die hard fan but the only voice the fan has is there money. My couch and big screen tv is were I will cheer for the Kings for this season if they come back.
October 27th, 2012, 03:12 PM #10
Don't count on watching on your TV either, I've heard the Kings are part of the TW deal, and we will not be able to watch without paying a fee per game?
Originally Posted by nedaynow