Thread: A modest proposal.

We fans are powerless in this lockout. That is mostly true. However, I propose we have a national chargeback day. Many people charge the season tickets on a credit card. The Kings have offered us refunds. Very nice. However, if you use your credit card to buy something and you don't get it you get to charge them back.

Years ago Bruce McNall declared bankruptcy. Back then you had to pay in full far in advance. I called American expresss, told them about the bankruptcy and had my money back that day.

I am not advocating refunds, I am advocating chargebacks. We pick a day, and everyone calls and says give me my money back. And the credit card companies will go into the owners bank accounts and take the money back right then.

Trust me if we can take 10 million per team in one day someone will surely take notice.

So.... We get our money back, then a deal gets reached, let's say November, then what? Now I've given up my seats and I don't get to see the Kings. Now AngryKing is angry. I don't like this plan one bit. One bit, I say!

Originally Posted by AngryKing

then a deal gets reached, let's say November, then what?

Don't worry, a deal isn't getting done in November...or December or January.

Actually, this is interesting, not for the charge back itself, but for the consequences to the teams if a mass charge back happens.

The merchants are required to keep charge backs below a certain percentage, if they do not there are a number of consequences, namely an increased transaction fee, the processing bank holding back funds for x number of days to cover future charge backs, penalties per charge back which normally range from $10-$30 and if the percentage gets high enough the merchant can be fined by Visa/Mastercard.

Now normally this isn't a big deal, but let's say 10% of the season ticket holders decide to charge back their tickets.

The teams would not only be looking at millions in actual refunds, but also fees and fines and going forward potential hold backs all of which mess up cash flow..... And their hands are tied, Visa/Mastercard know this, the teams HAVE to accept credit cards.

Will this tactic inspire the players to negotiate off the owners' offer?

I think it would be a great symbolic gesture if every venue was empty for the first day of post-lockout games. I'd love to see the TV camera angles as the network tries to minimize showing all those empty seats. It would be a large financial hit across the league, while leaving STHs the option to attend later games at their discretion.

Originally Posted by AngryKing

So.... We get our money back, then a deal gets reached, let's say November, then what? Now I've given up my seats and I don't get to see the Kings. Now AngryKing is angry. I don't like this plan one bit. One bit, I say!

AK while I can certainly understand an appreciate your loyalty to the team. It is why we are in this situation. We has hockey fans have been taken advantage of by the both the owners and players this lockout and lockouts past. They know we are not going anywhere and we will gladly throw our money at them the day they come back. I did it the previous two times, I get it.

Our only voice is our MONEY until the fans take a stand and hit them in the wallet, they will continue to **** on us. I will not be giving the NHL or Staples ANY of my money(except for raising the banner night) for the remainder of this season and 2014 season F THEM ALL.

Originally Posted by ChilledAgua

I think it would be a great symbolic gesture if every venue was empty for the first day of post-lockout games. I'd love to see the TV camera angles as the network tries to minimize showing all those empty seats. It would be a large financial hit across the league, while leaving STHs the option to attend later games at their discretion.

Fine with me if the Kings start on the road...I'm not missing the banner raising, no matter what

Already pulled my money for tickets. Decided the first game they made me miss was there last for the year.I'm a die hard fan but the only voice the fan has is there money. My couch and big screen tv is were I will cheer for the Kings for this season if they come back.