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    Thanks for the profiles, and your obvious hard work.


    Still, I really longed to read even just ONE like this:

    Offensive upside: 11/10
    ________has incredible puckhandling skills and skates like the wind on steroids. He loves to hit and battle for pucks,
    and has unparalleled instincts and creativity. He'll make an easy transition and be an NHL scoring star by November.

    Defensive upside: 12/10
    ___________ has the ability to check anyone, even Crosby or Toews. They may have to just GIVE the kid the Selke to keep for good,
    and come up with another trophy for NEXT best defensive FW, AFTER ______________.

    League/Role next year: He will dominate the League like Henry The VIIIth on meth. It will be a struggle for the coaches to play him less than 25 minutes-a-game.
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    Default Rather See Prokhorkin And Kempe Playing In Europe...

    Quote Originally Posted by anjae11eden View Post
    Things don't look good right regarding Nikolai coming to NA anytime soon.
    I think KHL and SHL are far better leagues for the development of two of LA's top(Prokhorkin and Kempe) prospects than having them playing in the AHL or junior circuit. Besides Stoll is playing 3rd line and has one year left on his contract. Don't see Prokhorkin playing a 4th line role unless its between Kempe and Zykov which would be killer line!

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    Thanks for this KP!

    At what point do you think the Kings cut bait with Prohorkin? Would him signing that 3 year deal do it? I still can't sort out with the way his contract was unregistered how long the Kings even retain his rights. It would certainly be folly to use further assets to retain them in my mind. DL has done very well in selecting from KHL possible players in the draft but he might just have to admit they missed on this one.

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    LOVE THIS THREAD!!!

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    Sorry Triple, but Bud Holloway isn't a prospect anymore


    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    Thanks for this KP!

    At what point do you think the Kings cut bait with Prohorkin? Would him signing that 3 year deal do it? I still can't sort out with the way his contract was unregistered how long the Kings even retain his rights. It would certainly be folly to use further assets to retain them in my mind. DL has done very well in selecting from KHL possible players in the draft but he might just have to admit they missed on this one.
    I am pretty oblivious when it comes to contractural issues, so I apologize in advance. The short answer is, I think the Kings will retain his rights as long as they are allowed.

    The slightly longer answer is, every team has a 50 contract limit. Some get deferred for different reasons (most commonly a patient going back to juniors, as is the case with Zykov).

    With Prokhorkin, he is either unsigned or "on loan" to the KHL. In either case, him staying out in Russia won't count towards the 50 contract limit, so it's not like the Kings would have to move a player to keep him. So, I don't think the Kings feel the need to cut bait. The only issue with him staying in Russia is the delay of his transition to North America. Otherwise, the Kings still have his rights, just as they have Holloway and Moller's rights.

    Hopefully someone more familiar with contracts can clarify this better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    Sorry Triple, but Bud Holloway isn't a prospect anymore




    I am pretty oblivious when it comes to contractural issues, so I apologize in advance. The short answer is, I think the Kings will retain his rights as long as they are allowed.

    The slightly longer answer is, every team has a 50 contract limit. Some get deferred for different reasons (most commonly a patient going back to juniors, as is the case with Zykov).

    With Prokhorkin, he is either unsigned or "on loan" to the KHL. In either case, him staying out in Russia won't count towards the 50 contract limit, so it's not like the Kings would have to move a player to keep him. So, I don't think the Kings feel the need to cut bait. The only issue with him staying in Russia is the delay of his transition to North America. Otherwise, the Kings still have his rights, just as they have Holloway and Moller's rights.

    Hopefully someone more familiar with contracts can clarify this better.
    I thought because they haven't signed him to his ELC he would eventually go back in to the draft? Or is that something else I'm misremembering. I know the whole thing is convoluted but at some point the kings rights should expire or am I mistaken?

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    NEWS FLASH:
    Kings trade Bud Holloway to Lakers for Jeremy Lin.












    (Hey, it's almost harvest-time, ok?)
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    Great list KP. I have a quibble with only Mersch's ranking. Think he should be a few spots higher. I'm also thinking a good performance in Manch (which I believe will happen) ought to get him to jump quite a few spots on this list by this time next year.

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    Just like The Neocons,
    I create my own reality:

    Jordan Weal
    Offensive upside: 15/10
    Incredible speed, astonishing acceleration, the hands of a surgeon, and Hope-Diamond-rare offensive instincts. Destined to be the next Martin St Louis,
    at the very least, and probably considerably better. When converted to RW and placed on the Kopitar/Gaborik line, he will lead that line in points,
    and make it one of the highest-scoring units in hockey history.

    Defensive upside: 12/10
    While too light to be an effective bodychecker, his lightning speed helps him dart in and out of traffic, steal numerous pucks,
    and block countless passes. He will break-up opposition plays relentlessly with his speed, anticipation and uncanny instincts.
    His penalty-killing will fast become legendary.

    League role next year: Rookie-of-the-year;MVP candidate;Selke candidate;Conn Smythe candidate;Art Ross winner. A young hockey God
    with powers that just keep growing and growing, like The Blob.


    Erin Andrews will break-up with Jarret Stoll and BEG Jordan to marry her.
    But being a perfect gentleman, Weal will decline.
    .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................................................
    Which story do YOU prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    I thought because they haven't signed him to his ELC he would eventually go back in to the draft? Or is that something else I'm misremembering. I know the whole thing is convoluted but at some point the kings rights should expire or am I mistaken?
    This is the crux of where I am totally clueless, but that hasn't stopped me from taking a stab at it in the past, so here goes!

    Remember back in the 2012/2013 season, Prokhorkin played 8 games with the Manchester Monarchs. In order for that transaction to have been made, Prokhorkin had to have signed a contract with the Kings. So, this is slightly different from being an unsigned prospect who, after two years of being drafted, can go back to the draft (or, depending on the circumstances, be a free agent). Normally, you would be right where an unsigned prospect would go back to the draft, but that's not the case.

    Unfortunately, I would need a lawyer to specify Prokhorkin's status. I read somewhere Bud Holloway would be a free agent after this season, when he turns 27 or something like that. I don't know specifically what the limit is, but it appears if Prokhorkin would play another three years in the KHL, the Kings WOULD still have his rights. I just don't know how much longer.

    Quote Originally Posted by KHenry14 View Post
    Great list KP. I have a quibble with only Mersch's ranking. Think he should be a few spots higher. I'm also thinking a good performance in Manch (which I believe will happen) ought to get him to jump quite a few spots on this list by this time next year.
    I totally understand, and frankly, I'm not happy with the ranking either, because I feel like I'm selling him short. I have made a lot of adjustments when I look at the list, and a huge reason is because a lot of them are very close. My ultimate rationale, which made me feel better about the decision, in terms of the next few prospects ahead of him:
    Steven Johnson - He's done pretty well despite growing four inches in a couple years, and is committed to one of the top collegiate schools.
    Nic Dowd - Hobey Baker finalist, 2nd on team scoring, used in all situations, 4 points in his first 11 professional games, which is the same rate Mersch scored.
    Nick Ebert - Top pairing defenseman on the OHL champion and Memorial cup finalist; 10 points in his first 14 professional games (in the ECHL, but as a 19 year-old)
    Mike Amadio - I am sure I have him rated higher than most, but I just think he fits into the Kings system perfectly, and will fast track his way in. Plus, he put up decent numbers on a very defensive game.

    So, I do feel my rankings are arguable strictly speaking of resumes, without even accounting style of play. Keep in mind I think very highly of Mersch, but I had a hard time justifying to myself ranking him higher than I have.

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