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    Quote Originally Posted by triplcrown View Post
    Thanks for the profiles, and your obvious hard work.


    Still, I really longed to read even just ONE like this:

    Offensive upside: 11/10
    ________has incredible puckhandling skills and skates like the wind on steroids. He loves to hit and battle for pucks,
    and has unparalleled instincts and creativity. He'll make an easy transition and be an NHL scoring star by November.

    Defensive upside: 12/10
    ___________ has the ability to check anyone, even Crosby or Toews. They may have to just GIVE the kid the Selke to keep for good,
    and come up with another trophy for NEXT best defensive FW, AFTER ______________.

    League/Role next year: He will dominate the League like Henry The VIIIth on meth. It will be a struggle for the coaches to play him less than 25 minutes-a-game.
    Nah, Parse already had his chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    This is the crux of where I am totally clueless, but that hasn't stopped me from taking a stab at it in the past, so here goes!

    Remember back in the 2012/2013 season, Prokhorkin played 8 games with the Manchester Monarchs. In order for that transaction to have been made, Prokhorkin had to have signed a contract with the Kings. So, this is slightly different from being an unsigned prospect who, after two years of being drafted, can go back to the draft (or, depending on the circumstances, be a free agent). Normally, you would be right where an unsigned prospect would go back to the draft, but that's not the case.

    Unfortunately, I would need a lawyer to specify Prokhorkin's status. I read somewhere Bud Holloway would be a free agent after this season, when he turns 27 or something like that. I don't know specifically what the limit is, but it appears if Prokhorkin would play another three years in the KHL, the Kings WOULD still have his rights. I just don't know how much longer.
    I know he played the 8 games but then I thought the NHL unregistered that contract calling it void and honoring the at the time transfer agreement with the KHL. It's probably one for the lawyers at this point. I think Ryan was of the opinion that he was still eligible to be signed to an ELC with the way that had happened. In any case if he does stay over there for 3 more years it certainly makes it much harder to envision him as part of the long term plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    This is the crux of where I am totally clueless, but that hasn't stopped me from taking a stab at it in the past, so here goes!

    Remember back in the 2012/2013 season, Prokhorkin played 8 games with the Manchester Monarchs. In order for that transaction to have been made, Prokhorkin had to have signed a contract with the Kings. So, this is slightly different from being an unsigned prospect who, after two years of being drafted, can go back to the draft (or, depending on the circumstances, be a free agent). Normally, you would be right where an unsigned prospect would go back to the draft, but that's not the case.

    Unfortunately, I would need a lawyer to specify Prokhorkin's status. I read somewhere Bud Holloway would be a free agent after this season, when he turns 27 or something like that. I don't know specifically what the limit is, but it appears if Prokhorkin would play another three years in the KHL, the Kings WOULD still have his rights. I just don't know how much longer.
    I know he played the 8 games but then I thought the NHL unregistered that contract calling it void and honoring the at the time transfer agreement with the KHL. It's probably one for the lawyers at this point. I think Ryan was of the opinion that he was still eligible to be signed to an ELC with the way that had happened. In any case if he does stay over there for 3 more years it certainly makes it much harder to envision him as part of the long term plan.
    I'll look more into it.

    But apparently Prokhorkin only signed a one year deal now, which would be great news!
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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    I'll look more into it.

    But apparently Prokhorkin only signed a one year deal now, which would be great news!
    Found something similar here

    Хоккеист Прохоркин подписал новый контракт с ЦСКА » Новости Мира

    Google translate says
    Prohorkin hockey player signed a new contract with CSKA

    Forward Nikolai Prohorkin signed a new contract with CSKA, official website of the Moscow club.

    The new contract is for one season.

    Earlier it was reported that Prohorkin enters NHL "Los Angeles Kings".

    Moscow Club not let hockey departure overseas.

    Read other news, materials and statistics you can page the Continental Hockey League.
    Not sure if this is actually a negotiation of the upcoming season since he bought himself out or an extension since he had a contract for this season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    I know he played the 8 games but then I thought the NHL unregistered that contract calling it void and honoring the at the time transfer agreement with the KHL. It's probably one for the lawyers at this point. I think Ryan was of the opinion that he was still eligible to be signed to an ELC with the way that had happened. In any case if he does stay over there for 3 more years it certainly makes it much harder to envision him as part of the long term plan.
    Yep. He played those 8 games because the Kings thought they had a valid contract in place, but the NHL refused to register it because of an agreement that Prokhorkin's father signed on his behalf with CSKA.

    The NHL voided his entry-level contract, which means he has technically never been signed to an ELC and leaves him as just an unsigned prospect at this point. No professional service time being accrued, no impact to the cap, and not counting against the 50 pro contract limit.
    Last edited by ryan; July 22nd, 2014 at 03:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Yep. He played those 8 games because the Kings thought they had a valid contract in place, but the NHL refused to register it because of an agreement that Prokhorkin's father signed on his behalf with CSKA.

    The NHL voided his entry-level contract, which means he has technically never been signed to an ELC and leaves him as just an unsigned prospect at this point. No professional service time being accrued, no impact to the cap, and not counting against the 50 pro contract limit.
    I don't understand how the Kings still have Prokhorkin's rights, if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    I don't understand how the Kings still have Prokhorkin's rights, if that's the case.
    What happens when you draft a guy and can't come to an agreement on a contract? Does that ever happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    What happens when you draft a guy and can't come to an agreement on a contract? Does that ever happen?
    All the time. The players either go back to the draft, or if they aren't eligible (too old), then they become free agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    All the time. The players either go back to the draft, or if they aren't eligible (too old), then they become free agents.
    Does the drafting team still own their rights for any amount of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    All the time. The players either go back to the draft, or if they aren't eligible (too old), then they become free agents.
    Does the drafting team still own their rights for any amount of time?
    A non NCAA player's rights are held for two years. Hence why I said I don't understand how the Kings still have his rights unless a valid contract was signed.

    Players committed to the NCAA have their rights owned until August of their graduating year, which is the huge question mark for Gravel.
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